Submarine accident

[spider]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6217471.stm

The sea is bloody dangerous.

RIP.

[The Blue Max]

May They Rest In Peace.

[Goldie fish]

Something wrong there. Why were they on deck in foul weather?

[armedboarder]

Something wrong there. Why were they on deck in foul weather?

Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do and die.
I dont think they would have went out there in poor sea state unless they had orders to carry out. Obviously a fire order to effect "essential repairs". Pity the fool who gave them, those lives on his / her head now.

Rest in peace.

[Rooster]

The average civilian doesn't appreciate how dangerous the climate can be in these islands especially at this time of year.

[armedboarder]

The average civilian doesn't appreciate how dangerous the climate can be in these islands especially at this time of year.

http://forum.irishmilitaryonline.com...1&d=1167757692

Heres a look of weather at sea.

[Goldie fish]

You don't need to be in a military force to appreciate weather conditions.

[armedboarder]

Very true Goldie, but it is rare to see the military in an unfavorable ratio to civilian casulties, when it comes to weather induced mortality.

[spider]

Something wrong there. Why were they on deck in foul weather?

Would it have had anything to do with the boats security ? AFAIK the RN subs get escorted by Royal Marines when entering or leaving Faslane. Everyone is jittery about a terrorist attack.

They were both quite senior crew members.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6221149.stm

[hedgehog]

Coastguards said the four sailors were tied to the 110m (362ft) vessel and were being "battered about" by the weather.

Is that literally tied

or is it more sea dog lingo

[Goldie fish]

On the deck of subs, those on deck usually wear safety harnesses.

When leaving or entering port, US crews often have lookouts on the sailplane.

[armedboarder]

Well you wouldn't get me on deck without a secure harness and a Hazardous Duty Life Jacket.

[Stoker]

I have seen subs on the surface at night in the Irish Sea showing nav lights from astern that we did not recognise and were not in the book. maybe they were derigging something before diving..... just a thought.

[Rooster]

You don't need to be in a military force to appreciate weather conditions.

Of course not, its just that a lot of people both civilian and military seem to think that because we tend to have quite "mild" weather conditions when compared to say the Arctic, Jungle or the Deserts then people seem surprised when body bags come down from the mountains or out of the sea.
When we hear a story of how someone goes up in the mountains or out to sea with very little or no safety equipment, no comms, on their own or without telling someone their route or maybe all of the above then its little wonder that they don't make it back in one piece!

[ZULU]

I think the fact that they were bashed off the hull by the waves having been secured by lifeline was the deciding factor. I've fallen overboard while off shore, thankfully while someone else was on deck with me. I ended up having to cut the safety line cause i couldn't be hauled up and my body was being f%&ked against the hull. It was safer for me to be in the water than attrached to the boat.

A very good friend of mine (passed away) was a solo transatlantic sailor. He always said that he didn't wear a safety line on deck. It would just prolong the agony.