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The sea is bloody dangerous.
RIP.
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The sea is bloody dangerous.
RIP.'History is a vast early warning system'. Norman Cousins -
May They Rest In Peace.British officer: You're seven minutes late, Mr. Collins.
Michael Collins: You've kept us waiting 700 years. You can have your seven minutes.
[As the British flag comes down]
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Something wrong there. Why were they on deck in foul weather?
Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.Comment
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Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do and die.Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
I dont think they would have went out there in poor sea state unless they had orders to carry out. Obviously a fire order to effect "essential repairs". Pity the fool who gave them, those lives on his / her head now.
Rest in peace.As always, too many christians and never enough lions.Comment
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The average civilian doesn't appreciate how dangerous the climate can be in these islands especially at this time of year.Comment
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As always, too many christians and never enough lions.Comment
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You don't need to be in a military force to appreciate weather conditions.
Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.Comment
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Very true Goldie, but it is rare to see the military in an unfavorable ratio to civilian casulties, when it comes to weather induced mortality.As always, too many christians and never enough lions.Comment
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Would it have had anything to do with the boats security ? AFAIK the RN subs get escorted by Royal Marines when entering or leaving Faslane. Everyone is jittery about a terrorist attack.Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
They were both quite senior crew members.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6221149.stm'History is a vast early warning system'. Norman CousinsComment
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Coastguards said the four sailors were tied to the 110m (362ft) vessel and were being "battered about" by the weather.
Is that literally tied
or is it more sea dog lingoThings fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.Comment
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On the deck of subs, those on deck usually wear safety harnesses.
When leaving or entering port, US crews often have lookouts on the sailplane.
Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.Comment
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Well you wouldn't get me on deck without a secure harness and a Hazardous Duty Life Jacket.As always, too many christians and never enough lions.Comment
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I have seen subs on the surface at night in the Irish Sea showing nav lights from astern that we did not recognise and were not in the book. maybe they were derigging something before diving..... just a thought.Comment
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Of course not, its just that a lot of people both civilian and military seem to think that because we tend to have quite "mild" weather conditions when compared to say the Arctic, Jungle or the Deserts then people seem surprised when body bags come down from the mountains or out of the sea.Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
When we hear a story of how someone goes up in the mountains or out to sea with very little or no safety equipment, no comms, on their own or without telling someone their route or maybe all of the above then its little wonder that they don't make it back in one piece!Comment
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I think the fact that they were bashed off the hull by the waves having been secured by lifeline was the deciding factor. I've fallen overboard while off shore, thankfully while someone else was on deck with me. I ended up having to cut the safety line cause i couldn't be hauled up and my body was being f%&ked against the hull. It was safer for me to be in the water than attrached to the boat.
A very good friend of mine (passed away) was a solo transatlantic sailor. He always said that he didn't wear a safety line on deck. It would just prolong the agony."The Question is not: how far you will take this? The Question is do you possess the constitution to go as far as is needed?"Comment
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