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  • Personal Pride.

    Last edited by rosser; 23 July 2008, 22:26.

  • #2
    Originally posted by rosser View Post
    What about a sea-service medal for each ship, ribbon different colour per vessel awarded for the sucessful completion of a two year rotation on a vessel with a number for subsequent years on that vessel, service would not have to be concurrent.
    *Note* There are men in service who would have 8 and 9 years done on vessels at sea and over 27 years at sea in their careers and it has been sugested to me that the officer corp would not go for this medal as the other ranks would far out strip them in years sea service.
    The same award could be given to the other service arms for postings to units etc.

    How about a tradesman badge for all qualified tradesmen similar to divers patch to be worn on same sleeve?. Engineers would also qualify for an award.

    How about instead of a trophy for the Best Recruit give him a ribbon for his uniform for ever, the same idea for Best POT/NCO cse, Best Standard NCO cse, Best Snr NCO cse, Best Cadet?

    Change the marksmans and sniper marksman badges so that if you qualify once you get the badge of marksman forever and if you qualify every year you get a higher expert marksman badge, also bring in a seperate pistol marksmans badge again in two forms Marksman and Expert.
    We in the naval service do not get the same opportunities to shoot as often as the other services so very little is there to encourage interest in shooting.
    The issue with this sort of carry on is that you end up looking like the US Army - every Tom, Dick and Harry looks like an African dictator, with ribbons for tying their boots and playing nice with the other children. The current minimalist approach means that people appreciate what medals they do have, and someone with a chest full of fruit salad has it because they repeatedly risked their arse in some hellhole.

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    • #3
      I know there is a Good Conduct medal which can be award for 3 yrs charge free service
      more like three years of undetected crime

      Medals for postings etc....whoah up there! this is getting so American...They even get a medal for enlisting...where should the line be drawn

      I think the whole medal thing is a bit....lets say for the times they are worn hardly worth it

      I do how ever agree that the ranking sytem and divisional status thing is outdated and should be brought into line with the RN system where a rank within a divison with acertain qualification is identified and titled as such...

      Secondary qualifications such as marksman , diver, etc should be acerdited with appropriate markings either on the rank or divisonal marking...and the ships serving should also be accredited as the NSR flash..compromise?
      Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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      • #4
        Originally posted by hptmurphy View Post
        more like three years of undetected crime

        Medals for postings etc....whoah up there! this is getting so American...They even get a medal for enlisting...where should the line be drawn

        I think the whole medal thing is a bit....lets say for the times they are worn hardly worth it

        I do how ever agree that the ranking sytem and divisional status thing is outdated and should be brought into line with the RN system where a rank within a divison with acertain qualification is identified and titled as such...

        Secondary qualifications such as marksman , diver, etc should be acerdited with appropriate markings either on the rank or divisonal marking...and the ships serving should also be accredited as the NSR flash..compromise?
        :redface: we tried all this before and during my time we achieved one new badge .. a gunners badge..until one old demented army top brass saw it .. he nearly lost the rag .. he never was informed about it so as i said before our weak focns ( a yes man) told us we could not wear it and off it went to the history books..we were always a small cog in the wheel and i presume that it will remain this way ... work on getting more pay.gear and time off .. as for the medals.. they may look good but its what goes into the bank each week that matters.. medals and badges .will not get you a mortgage.. retired with pension medals in the attic

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        • #5
          Originally posted by hptmurphy View Post
          more like three years of undetected crime

          Medals for postings etc....whoah up there! this is getting so American...They even get a medal for enlisting...where should the line be drawn

          I think the whole medal thing is a bit....lets say for the times they are worn hardly worth it

          I do how ever agree that the ranking sytem and divisional status thing is outdated and should be brought into line with the RN system where a rank within a divison with acertain qualification is identified and titled as such...

          Secondary qualifications such as marksman , diver, etc should be acerdited with appropriate markings either on the rank or divisonal marking...and the ships serving should also be accredited as the NSR flash..compromise?
          I can appreciate Rosser's query, and it's a fair point. But I would have to agree with Murph and Barry. I would find it embarrassing to be going around like the 'Boy Scouts' (no disrespect to them) with a piece of the 'salad bowl' for every achievement. However, I do agree with a patch for certain hard earned accreditations as mentioned above.

          Personally, I would see it as a means to putting people on pedestals , 'the ME better than thou bit' and it would do no good for equality.
          I do recall a number of incidents where a senior NCO would appear on parade with a full array of medals. The fact was that only ONE medal was his, the rest belonged to his grandfather. Now where do you draw the line? I think it made him look like like an idiot, especially as he had a personality defect in that he did all sorts of things to draw attention to himself. I think the uniform plastered in rows of medals are generally for the people who crave attention because they lack self confidence!
          Last edited by Test Pilot; 1 September 2007, 15:40.

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          • #6
            but everyone in the know is aware the person is a tosser.

            now and again we see the boyscout merit badger [ = parawings badge and so forth ].
            "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

            "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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            • #7
              Actaually haven spoken in depth with one or two of the para kind...especially those who have returend and done various historical jumps and the reality and risks involved...have to say Ok if the peeps at the top recognise it..it s askill and you have earned that right to wear it...

              I might be going back on some of what I said in the past but when I see the commitment involved and the lack of oppertunity for especially RDF guys to these courses..its fine by me...but ffs can u please do some thing to make the Dress uniform wings less garish!!!
              Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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              • #8
                Hi Murph
                Are you referring to the AC Pilots Wings? There was an attempt to have them made smaller or even rendered only in metal but the pilots nailed it flat.Some traditions are not to be trifled with...
                regards
                GttC

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                • #9
                  GTTc ...no I was refferng to the Dutch Para Wings worn by those whoqualify....the enamel ones used on the SD#1 uniform is absolutely horrible..and huge.

                  The ones worn by the AC are not bad in comparrision.
                  Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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                  • #10
                    What's this about a three year Good Conduct medal for charge free service. I've been collecting UN, PDF and FCA medals for the past 20 years and never heard of this one. I thought I had them all . Have I missed out somewhere. I doubt it. My son served in the N/S and he never heard of it either. After 17 years service NS and Army he is still waiting for his 10 year service medal. Fat chance of any of these awards being sanctioned

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Drylander View Post
                      What's this about a three year Good Conduct medal for charge free service. I've been collecting UN, PDF and FCA medals for the past 20 years and never heard of this one. I thought I had them all . Have I missed out somewhere. I doubt it. My son served in the N/S and he never heard of it either. After 17 years service NS and Army he is still waiting for his 10 year service medal. Fat chance of any of these awards being sanctioned
                      http://www.theeasterrising.eu/240_WorldWarTwo/ww2.htm about 2/3 down page

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                      • #12
                        The Bonn Dea Iompar medal...was awarded for charge free service over a given number of years.Its was struck in about 1988 but has more or less become a rarity as it was seen as far to easily obtainable with the circumstances under which it was awarded being abused.....

                        Also known as 'the medal for undetected crime'.!

                        Funnily enough some of the first were actually issued in the NS...and one to a guy in particular who had twenty one years of undetected crime.
                        Last edited by hptmurphy; 5 September 2007, 09:29.
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                        • #13
                          Bonn Dea Iompar; Good Conduct medal was issued for ten years exemplary service in 1987.A maximium of 60 to be awarded each year. There were only 2 issues awarded (120) in total before the medal ceased to be awarded. An officer was not eligible for this medal and any man who came up through the ranks and was commissioned was allowed to retain the medal BUT was not allowed to wear it or the ribbon on his uniform. Never heard it called the medal for undetected crime though. Good one. I like it. A truer word was never spoken.

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                          • #14
                            dahamster. Do you mean the Slua Muiri Medal ? This was not a good conduct medal. To qualify for this medal Required 365 days service . Maybe you mean some other medal .
                            any further info greatfully recieved

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Drylander View Post
                              dahamster. Do you mean the Slua Muiri Medal ? This was not a good conduct medal. To qualify for this medal Required 365 days service . Maybe you mean some other medal .
                              any further info greatfully recieved
                              no if you go to thre link i submitted and go down the page you will see photos of the attaboy medal .
                              Its above the dsm. My auld fella has one but its stuck inside a display case on the wall at this stage.

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