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  • #91
    There was no recorded fire at this location because the wind was blowing from the opposite direction on the night of the big fire.
    Always the pessimist
    Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Seanachie View Post
      And its highly corrosive if left standing in equipment.



      Bad idea....

      Why all the panic to refit the place all of a sudden given there was never a fire suppression system present beyond that equipment carried on ships along side and a few hoses an extinguishers on the walls.

      And there hasn't been a recorded fuel fire at this location.

      Playing it safe or has the HSA jumped on them?
      Never been a fire here before? Always a first time.

      25 litre drums make some sense as it would suit use by Local Authority Fire Services as most of their equipment is suited to working from said drums. AFAIK Cork City or County dont have Bulk Foam carriers and rely solely on 25 litre drums

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Seanachie View Post
        Always the pessimist
        You say the glass is half full, I say the glass is poorly designed to accomodate the liquid it contains in an efficient manner.


        Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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        • #94
          Never been a fire here before? Always a first time.

          25 litre drums make some sense as it would suit use by Local Authority Fire Services as most of their equipment is suited to working from said drums. AFAIK Cork City or County dont have Bulk Foam carriers and rely solely on 25 litre drums
          The nature of the substance stored there dosen't easily lead to fire.

          If there were to be a fire it would have progressed well beyond the need for 25 litre drums of Foan when the local authourity would have turned up.

          You say the glass is half full, I say the glass is poorly designed to accomodate the liquid it contains in an efficient manner.
          I would reckon the Glass no longer being the issue but how the glass has been built around and the materials used enhancing the requirement.

          In the past the area was almost sterile, Change in procedure and alternative use of the location beyond what it was originally designed for has lead to the requirement.

          Now some has revisited the location and demanded upgrade because of an oversight when the location was 'rezoned' so to speak.

          AFAIK Cork City or County dont have Bulk Foam carriers and rely solely on 25 litre drums
          If monitors are in the spec, local authority will not need/have oppertunity to plug into local supply given the discharge rate of monitors as opposed to induction branches.
          Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Seanachie View Post
            The nature of the substance stored there dosen't easily lead to fire.

            If there were to be a fire it would have progressed well beyond the need for 25 litre drums of Foan when the local authourity would have turned up.



            If monitors are in the spec, local authority will not need/have oppertunity to plug into local supply given the discharge rate of monitors as opposed to induction branches.
            If its a fixed automatic system , why was the Foam Specced in 25 litre Drums?
            The Local Authority Fire Brigade I presume will be called as part of the Bases procedure and their role would be to deal with any ancillary fires and to augment the bases Fire Fighting capability.
            BTW what fire fighting capability does the base have?
            Would the Naval Service retain overall command and responsibility during a fire or does the LA Fire Service take charge?

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            • #96
              Going from last time, the Local Authority fire service took charge.


              Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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              • #97
                To be fitted with two oscillating monitors, capable of self oscillation and manual operation.

                This is what the spec says, hence the 25ltr drum thing dosen't make sense.

                Going from last time, the Local Authority fire service took charge.
                Always do, they are the qualified experts in firefighting....on land.

                Would the Naval Service retain overall command and responsibility
                Under most emergency planning Command and Control is handed over to the first arriving Fire Officer and he will become the on scene commander although he would have to have liaison with some figure of authourity in the NS.

                Your Emergency plan must be circulated to the Local Fire Authority if you have the potential for a major incident on their patch.

                Makes sense really.
                Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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                • #98
                  [QUOTE=Seanachie;353828]This is what the spec says, hence the 25ltr drum thing dosen't make sense.



                  Always do, they are the qualified experts in firefighting....on land.



                  Under most emergency planning Command and Control is handed over to the first arriving Fire Officer and he will become the on scene commander although he would have to have liaison with some figure of authourity in the NS.
                  This is a legal requirement under the FSA 1981 as amended.

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                  • #99
                    I remember years back a fire on a navel ship Michel Mc Intyre from Offly got a D.S.M for bravery during the incident

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                    • That was at sea. Peadar Tumulty also got one.


                      Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                      • Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
                        That was at sea. Peadar Tumulty also got one.
                        Hey Goldie Do you remember when the Major fell in the sea .and then stopped the prop on the launch with his bare hands He had problems with his heart later

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                        • I was never in the NS.


                          Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                          • Edited for personal reasons
                            boy in blue
                            C/S
                            Last edited by boy in blue; 5 November 2011, 11:40.

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                            • Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
                              I was never in the NS.
                              Sorry .Thought you were

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                              • Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
                                There was no recorded fire at this location because the wind was blowing from the opposite direction on the night of the big fire.
                                this would have been the second fire of such a large building and at last hsa woke up and implemented proper fire rules as they are in all areas of dangerous liquids etc as in the pharma industries..

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