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  • Goldie fish
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    Interesting story from the Papers released under the 30 year rule. History repeating itself in certain ways.

    B&I sought to close its service from Cork

    Monday, December 30, 2013

    The newly elected Government led by Garret FitzGerald insisted the B&I Ferries could only close its Cork-Pembroke service in early 1983 if it agreed to maintain a summer service, against the advice of an interdepartmental group.





    By Seán McCárthaigh
    Irish Examiner ReporterManagement at the ferry company had sought Government approval in Oct 1982 to close the route from Jan 7 the following year.

    An interdepartmental group set up by the previous government under Charles Haughey claimed the operation of a summer service between Cork and the Welsh port would raise losses from £800k to £1.3m.

    It rejected the idea of a summer service on the Cork-Pembroke route on the basis it would inhibit B&I from making the maximum use of its Rosslare-Pembroke service.

    Local interest groups, however, claimed the company had lacked commitment to the Cork route and the service, using an old vessel, Innisfallen, was unsatisfactory and unattractive, which was not helped by moving it from Swansea and its failure to move to a new Ringaskiddy ferry terminal.

    Transport Minister Jim Mitchell said he was satisfied there was no economic justification for an all-year round service on the Cork-Pembroke route. However, he was “not entirely convinced” by the committee’s opposition to a summer service.

    He argued the complete termination of the Cork-Pembroke route was hard to justify at a time when the Rosslare route was suffering similar losses.

    Mr Mitchell agreed with the decision to terminate the Cork-Pembroke service in Jan 1983 on the basis that B&I would operate a summer service. He recommended the position with regard to 1984 and future years should be reviewed towards the end of 1983.

    In contrast, Finance Minister Alan Dukes supported the committee’s view. He claimed the Cork-Pembroke route was seriously undermining B&I’s financial position. He recommended that B&I should “disengage totally and permanently from Cork”.

    Trade, Commerce and Tourism Minister Frank Cluskey expressed concern that Exchequer funding would not be used to support non-viable routes.

    A report by the interdepartmental committee showed the Cork-Pembroke route had accumulated loses of £4.2m since 1979.&

    The committee concluded that B&I’s only chance of profitability was to close its Cork service and concentrate on the Rosslare route.

    Other State papers from Dec 1983 show the summer service incurred losses of £690,000 with the Government having to provide an extra subsidy of £500,000 to B&I. At the stage, Mr Mitchell recommended B&I’s proposal to withdraw entirely from the Cork route.

    B&I, established in 1836, was nationalised in 1965. It was privatised in 1992 when taken over by Irish Continental Line.
    © Irish Examiner Ltd. All rights reserved
    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland...rk-253748.html

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  • Goldie fish
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    Nah, she'll be razor blades by then.

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  • Laners
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    Well she is off to be an accomadation ship for wind farm construction , maybe we will see her back when our own Celtic oil and gas rush takes off .

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  • Goldie fish
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    I don't think they got as much from the state as they were hoping for, hence the closure of the service(which was anything but).

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  • Laners
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    Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
    Yup. That's her gone. And with it goes a large eyesore from the city quays.
    And a bunch of tax payers money in subsidies .

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  • Goldie fish
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    Yup. That's her gone. And with it goes a large eyesore from the city quays.

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  • pmtts
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    Has she been re-named " wind perfection "

    If so she's passed Roches Point, with a destination of Denmark.

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  • Goldie fish
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    Looks like the closing page of this chapter.
    Cork ferry embarks on new life as floating hotel

    By Sean O’Riordan

    Friday, March 30, 2012

    It is a rather ignominious end for the ferry once billed as one of the jewels in Cork tourism industry.

    The MV Julia will sail out of Cork tomorrow to embark on a new life — a floating dormitory for workers building and servicing offshore wind turbines in the North Sea.

    It is the final chapter in the short and troubled life of the Fastnet Line, which was set up by West Cork Tourism Co-operative.

    The 30-year-old ship, which had capacity for 1,860 passengers, made its maiden voyage on the Cork-Swansea route in Mar 2010.

    She was bedeviled by mechanical problems in the first few days of operation, and in Nov 2011 the service was withdrawn due to higher-than-expected fuel prices.

    It had been hoped to restart the route this year, but the Fastnet Line went into receivership last month.

    The vessel had been sold, reportedly for €5m, to C-BED, a Dutch-based company.

    It had been managed during the receivership process by Cork-based Barry Shipping Ltd, which completed the transfer of the vessel to C-BED last Wednesday.

    The Julia, which will be renamed Wind Perfection, will undergo an extensive refit in Holland before she takes up a charter with Siemens next October.

    Port of Cork commercial manager Michael McCarthy said the ship would be used as a floating hotel for wind turbine industry workers.

    It is being used by Siemens to save valuable time and money which would be incurred in the daily transfer of construction workers to and from the mainland.

    Mr McCarthy said it was "very shocking" to see the Fastnet Line service fail.

    "We [the Port of Cork] remain convinced that there is a viable ferry route between the ports of Swansea and Cork.

    "Rising fuel prices have been a contributor to the failure of the service and other shipping lines servicing routes throughout Europe have seen their profits reduced due to many factors.

    "However, they are still in operation and overnight ferries are still very popular."

    Mr McCarthy said that tourism combined with adequate patronage from freight companies would make the route viable.

    "Yes, there can be a viable business with proper finance and keeping the cost base down."

    It is estimated the ferry would have carried about 75,000 passengers this year if it had not been withdrawn from service.

    Cllr Tim Lombard, mayor of Co Cork, said: "The loss of the ferry will have a major knock-on effect in the South-West’s tourism business. We now have to redouble our efforts to secure a new service."

    It is believed the ferry service was directly responsible for tourists spending €35m annually in the region.

    "As a local authority we will have to lead the charge to get the ferry back and we should be working with the port authorities in Cork and Swansea to do this," said Cllr Lombard

    Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland...#ixzz1qlQwSGBQ

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  • thedollar
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    Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
    Different ship. Different company. This one only entered service on the route in 2010 and has nothing written on the side.
    Mea culpa

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  • Goldie fish
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    Originally posted by thedollar View Post
    I'm thinking back to 2005 & 2006. Maybe it was on EMA's I saw it? She definitely had Cork - Swansea written on her.
    Different ship. Different company. This one only entered service on the route in 2010 and has nothing written on the side.

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  • thedollar
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    I'm thinking back to 2005 & 2006. Maybe it was on EMA's I saw it? She definitely had Cork - Swansea written on her.

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  • Goldie fish
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    Originally posted by thedollar View Post
    That's a pity. Used to remember it sailing past the Base in the afternoons while out on a run
    I doubt that its the same ship. This one arrived early in the mornings and usually left around 8pm.

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  • thedollar
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    That's a pity. Used to remember it sailing past the Base in the afternoons while out on a run

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  • Goldie fish
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    Cork/Swansea ferry service wound up, 78 jobs lost
    Thursday, February 02, 2012 - 11:30 AM



    The ferry link between Cork and Swansea is to end, with the loss of 78 jobs.

    The announced has been made by the West Cork Tourism Co-Operative Society Limited, owners of the Fastnet Line, in a statement in the past few minutes.

    The ferry service will be placed in receivership or liquidation later today, after an examiner was appointed to the operating company last year.

    The ferry service is worth around €30m to the south-west, and had already carried 153,000 passengers before running into financial trouble.



    Read more: http://www.examiner.ie/breakingnews/...#ixzz1lDyeeqeX
    That's that then.

    Anyone wanna buy a 30 year old ferry?

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  • Goldie fish
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    None at all I'd say. The only people with a maritime background, apart from a few WAFIS , were the ships captains and crew.

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