Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Roisín Damaged. Again!

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Roisín Damaged. Again!

    ATLANTIC COAST: THE NAVAL Service patrol vessel LE Roisín is undergoing urgent repairs in Galway dock, following wave damage in severe weather off Kerry coast during a New Year’s Eve fishery patrol.

    The damage to the “flare” or custom-built bow has been attributed to a hostile Atlantic.

    The vessel was travelling northwards and had just left the Blasket Sound when the superstructure was hit.

    It was not holed, but the port side of the bow’s flaring was “pushed in”, a Naval Service spokesman said.

    The vessel had up to 44 crew under the command of Lieut-Cdr Owen Mulowney.

    A course was set for Galway, to effect temporary repairs, but it is expected the vessel will return to the Naval Service base at Haulbowline for further examination.

    It is the second time the LE Roisín – one of the two most recently built ships owned by the Naval Service – has been damaged in heavy seas. Just over five years ago, in October 2004, its flaring was hit when it was en route to a Canadian submarine 100 miles west of the Donegal coast. A fire had broken out on board the HMCS Chicoutimi , claiming the life of one Canadian officer and injuring two crewmen. The LE Aoife was tasked to assist when the LE Roisín was forced to turn back.

    The Naval Service said, in this incident, the watertight integrity was not affected.

    A spokesman said the “flare” is designed to protect crew accommodation in heavy weather.

    Four Naval Service vessels remained on sailing order over Christmas, and fishery patrols resumed on December 28th.

    Minister for Defence Willie O’Dea has promised to buy two new vessels to replace ageing Naval Service vessels, but has deferred the delivery to 2012-2013, “subject to Government approval on funding”.

    Three months ago, Defence Forces representative organisation Pdforra expressed concern about Naval Service crew safety, claiming holes had been discovered in two of the older vessels
    Thank jesus that on one was hurt, LtCdr Mulowney is one of our best young captains so at least you can be more or less sure he wouldnt have had them out there without good reason. He's not a storm chaser like some others.

    I wonder was the flare damage to the same spot or do we now have another weakened section of bow to worry about.

    Happy New Years lads!

  • #2
    M1 - 50 NM West of Aran Islands (62090) Wave Buoy Data : Nil

    This wave buoy hasn't reported in the last 24 hours. It may be damaged temporarily, down for routine maintenance, removed for the season or permanently out of action

    M3 - 30 NM Southwest of Mizen Head (62092) Wave Buoy Data

    Wave height during 31st was between 4.8m and 5.2m with a period between 6 and 9 seconds.

    K2 Buoy (62081) Wave Buoy Data

    Wave height during 31st was between 8.1m and 10.6m with a period between 9 and 12 seconds.


    I think this is what damaged the bow rather than anything else. Thats a boody rough time out there!
    "The Question is not: how far you will take this? The Question is do you possess the constitution to go as far as is needed?"

    Comment


    • #3
      he had plenty of warning about the storms but he still went out in it.. is that a sign of a good captain... deirdres flare was much larger
      golden rivet
      bosun
      Last edited by golden rivet; 2 January 2010, 15:32.

      Comment


      • #4
        Unless someone sees exactly what the captain sees (and has access to the same information (and only that information) they shouldn't be commenting.

        He may have had different information
        He may have been trying to get back to shelter having gone out
        It could have been a freek wave
        It could have been a life and death SAR incident and he wayed up the odds


        Zulu, bear in mind the incident happened just outside Blasket Sound, the nearest bouy is M3 (a fair distance from Blasket and 30nm offshore)

        Comment


        • #5
          All the weather forecasts said the same thing, Don't go out to sea.
          If you did go out and were trying to get back to shelter thats a bad judgement call in itself. Theres no such thing as a "Freak" wave and it would have been mentioned if the good crew Róisín were responding to a distress or on a SAR operation.

          Dev, please bear in mind that everyone can have an opinion, objective or not and shouldn't be shouted down because it's outside your paremeters of thought.
          As always, too many christians and never enough lions.

          Comment


          • #6
            the main thing is the crew are fine no one was hurt .. talking to my mate on it. but what if it had been emer would she have been able to withstand that kind of slap from a wave .. steel can be replaced

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by armedboarder View Post
              All the weather forecasts said the same thing, Don't go out to sea.
              If you did go out and were trying to get back to shelter thats a bad judgement call in itself. Theres no such thing as a "Freak" wave and it would have been mentioned if the good crew Róisín were responding to a distress or on a SAR operation.

              Dev, please bear in mind that everyone can have an opinion, objective or not and shouldn't be shouted down because it's outside your paremeters of thought.
              thanks A.B. i dont know how much dev knows about the sea but a famous signal that any captain should send would be INTEND remaining at anchor until moderation in weather this says that the weather is too bad to superiors and it would be only a rescue that he would be advised to go out on... and yes i can comment on naval matters as experience means a lot in these matters..

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by DeV View Post
                Zulu, bear in mind the incident happened just outside Blasket Sound, the nearest bouy is M3 (a fair distance from Blasket and 30nm offshore)
                Dev, I know that. I also have 20 years marine experience and professional qualifications in the area.

                Valentia recorded gusts of 52Kts with Shannon Airport recorting 43 kts.

                The weather the length of the west coast from shore to M1,M3,M4 was shit. No other way to describe it.
                "The Question is not: how far you will take this? The Question is do you possess the constitution to go as far as is needed?"

                Comment


                • #9
                  Thursday 31st December 2009 3am





                  At best they were encountering force 6-7, at worst up to force 11

                  Attached Files
                  ZULU
                  Teuton Foot Soldier
                  Last edited by ZULU; 2 January 2010, 20:46.
                  "The Question is not: how far you will take this? The Question is do you possess the constitution to go as far as is needed?"

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Just wondering, if the ship was heading north, and the wind and waves were from the north-east, how come it was the port bow that was damaged?

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Was anyone hurt?
                      Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
                      Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
                      The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
                      The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
                      The best lack all conviction, while the worst
                      Are full of passionate intensity.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by easyrider View Post
                        Just wondering, if the ship was heading north, and the wind and waves were from the north-east, how come it was the port bow that was damaged?
                        Not having the charts at hand or any information about the tides and winds and sea state at that exact location at that time, I can only guess that the clue is in the line that the ship had "just left the blasket sound". Again stressing that I also don't know the exact position of the ship at the time, but water has to go around and so if water is trying to go southwards into the sound it could have been deflected slightly eastwards, meaning that the port bow would be hit.
                        Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
                        Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
                        Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
                        Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          for the uninitiated amongst us what is a flaring?
                          But there's no danger
                          It's a professional career
                          Though it could be arranged
                          With just a word in Mr. Churchill's ear
                          If you're out of luck you're out of work
                          We could send you to johannesburg.

                          (Elvis Costello, Olivers Army)

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            A bit bullyish

                            Originally posted by golden rivet View Post
                            thanks A.B. i dont know how much dev knows about the sea but a famous signal that any captain should send would be INTEND remaining at anchor until moderation in weather this says that the weather is too bad to superiors and it would be only a rescue that he would be advised to go out on... and yes i can comment on naval matters as experience means a lot in these matters..
                            NP GR, if theres one thing I hate its imposition over contribution.
                            As always, too many christians and never enough lions.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by armedboarder View Post
                              NP GR, if theres one thing I hate its imposition over contribution.
                              oh put that into normal talk please we are children of the sixties

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X