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  • In light of the announcement yesterday by the EU, pointing out that the European Patrol Vessels needs to be an advance ship that is used in EU waters, should we not be joining the other EU countries in the design and requirements

    European Patrol Corvette - Wikipedia
    "Why am I using a new putter? Because the last one didn't float too well." -Craig Stadler

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    • Originally posted by gaff85 View Post
      In light of the announcement yesterday by the EU, pointing out that the European Patrol Vessels needs to be an advance ship that is used in EU waters, should we not be joining the other EU countries in the design and requirements

      European Patrol Corvette - Wikipedia
      We should be doing lots of things

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      • Random tweet slightly relevant to our EPV programe - The Netherlands may be looking to replace their Holland class OPVs and Enforcer LPDs with Damen Crossovers

        * https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/st...04698429001737

        Sounds a little strange to a landlubber like me, as the Hollands are not that old, and the Crossovers have nowhere near the same capacity as the Enforcers. Maybe they need more capability than the Holland's can provide, and Crossovers would supplement, rather than replace, the Enforcers?

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        • The Hollands spend much of their time in the Caribbean, patrolling the Dutch territories there. Perhaps the frequent weather events and natural disasters have given cause for a review? At the end of the day, the Holland is still just a large OPV with a very costly mast. A Crossover at the lower end gives you similar size to the Holland, but a lot more HADR and military capability.
          For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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          • That sounds a good case na grohmiti, not sure how I could forget about the hurricane territory down there. Plus the extra defence/HADR capabilities. As Borat would say, I Like...

            Not too long before we find out if we're thinking along the same line.

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            • Wouldn't be at all surprised to see the Mast unit removed from the Hollands before they are passed on to new operators, and the mast being refitted on the new ship. Its an excellent, but costly bit of equipment, and far more than the average OPV needs. Karel Doorman has the same mast unit, but she lacks a well deck. (she has everything else).
              Dutch Defence White paper, launched earlier this week also seeks a great er strike capability for the Kon Marine. You could do it with an OPV, but you can do it better on an LPD
              For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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              • NS Facebook page says Beckett is on a resupply to Lebanon (for UNIFIL & UNDOF)

                appears to be 3 x TEU on board

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                • Shame how the orange diamond with the number in it ruins the overall green of the box.

                  https://twitter.com/dohville/status/...uWAqNKFw4NReuA
                  For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                  • Portugal has a project in the works and a end date of 2025 quite similar too our own MRV project but with a big emphasis on flight deck space for heli's and specifically drones in this case likely using the new MQ-9B STOL.

                    https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news...rship-project/

                    https://twitter.com/GenAtomics_ASI/s...11470152941568

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                    • Originally posted by Quinn View Post
                      Portugal has a project in the works and a end date of 2025 quite similar too our own MRV project but with a big emphasis on flight deck space for heli's and specifically drones in this case likely using the new MQ-9B STOL.

                      https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news...rship-project/

                      https://twitter.com/GenAtomics_ASI/s...11470152941568
                      Surprised they mention there doesn’t seem to be any hanger capability for the design, at least for the helicopter if not the drone?

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                      • Not at all similar apart from the name.
                        For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                        • No mention of MRV yesterday whatsoever. The document mentioned Jets, and a 12 ship navy, but no MRV/EPV. Meanwhile the Marine Institute will soon take delivery of its new Research vessel, which is quite a complex vessel, fitted to Mar Inst specs to carry out a wide range of survey roles. Check out the timeline. Then look at the date on the first post in this thread.
                          Tom Crean Timeline | Marine Institute
                          For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                          • https://forum.irishmilitaryonline.co...049#post268049
                            RFP in 2007, same as the OPVs.
                            Yet here we are 15 years later no closer to steel being cut.
                            For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                            • And there was me thinking the project had been forgotten.
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                              Pat Buckley

                              Pat Buckley

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                              798. Deputy Pat Buckley asked the Minister for Defence the number of Irish Naval Service ships that are currently in operation; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [44047/22]
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                              Minister for Defence


                              The Naval Service currently has a fleet of six ships. One ship is in the process of a mid-life re-fit which is expected to last 18 - 24 months. There are five operational ships that remain available at present.

                              Three naval service vessels, LÉ Eithne, LÉ Ciara and LÉ Orla were decommissioned on Friday, 8th July of this year.

                              Two Inshore Patrol Vessels have been purchased from the New Zealand Government to replace LÉ Orla and LÉ Ciara, it is expected these vessels will be transported to Ireland in 2023 following the completion of a programme of works.

                              Marine Advisors have been appointed to support the procurement of multi-role vessel (MRV) to replace the flagship, LÉ Eithne, this work is underway and will inform a public tender competition in due course. The MRV is an important element of the Defence Equipment Development Plan and is provided for in the Government's National Development Plan as a major capital project. It is the Government’s intention that this new vessel will provide a flexible and adaptive capability for a wide range of maritime tasks
                              Naval Service – Thursday, 8 Sep 2022 – Parliamentary Questions (33rd Dáil) – Houses of the Oireachtas
                              For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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