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  • danno
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    "A senior Navy Officer..name change ....unheard of"
    I am amazed that somebody could acheive senior rank in RN without being aware of previous name changes or else he/she was acting the fool/knave expecting the BAF/public to buy that nonsense.

    Maybe this expalins how the RN came to have Arthur Batcelor et al in its ranks,it is very hard to take the RN seriously after that episode.(no personal slur intended as AB clearly should never have been selected for boarding duties)

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  • easyrider
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    Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
    Prince Charles 'saves Ark Royal’
    The name HMS Ark Royal – one of the most historic in Navy history – will pass to a new aircraft carrier, after an intervention by the Prince of Wales.
    By Thomas Harding, Defence Correspondent 7:30AM BST 02 May 2011
    The Prince is understood to have privately agreed to allow HMS Prince of Wales, which is under construction, to be renamed Ark Royal, after the former flagship bearing the name was decommissioned.......
    Given what happened to the last HMS Prince of Wales, it might be no harm to change the name.

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  • easyrider
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    Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
    hi there
    In the last episode of "HMS Manchester", the engineer referred to the engines as Tynes, not Olympus. he said that they were in a spares pool managed by Rolls-Royce. The Tynes were turboprops and not pure jets like the Olympus. I wonder if they could substitute a more modern engine for the obsolete Tynes, to keep the ships active for longer.
    regards
    GttC
    Tynes are still flying, powering the Breguet Atlantic and the Transall C-160.

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  • hptmurphy
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    If you want real confusion go back to the Cruisers 'Tiger' 'Blake' and 'Lion' famously only two were built but each carried one of the three names of the class at some point during inception / construction.

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  • Goldie fish
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    Yup, shur was HMS Hermes supposed to be called Elephant or something? The CATOBAR ark royals sister ship Eagle was supposed to be called Audacious.
    And RFA Fort Grange was renamed Fort Rosalie

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  • danno
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    "name change... vitually unheard of"

    Has happened on several occasions previously in RN.No big deal.

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  • Orion
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    Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
    Prince Charles 'saves Ark Royal’
    The name HMS Ark Royal – one of the most historic in Navy history – will pass to a new aircraft carrier, after an intervention by the Prince of Wales
    Great idea should salvage a lot of pride.

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  • Orion
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    Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
    It has both Tynes and Olympus. One for cruising, the other for sprinting. The tynes do the Cruising.
    2 of each.
    Sounds like they should have retractable/swing wings :-)

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  • Barry
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    Conventional fixed wing carrier aviation in the RN ended with the previous Ark Royal, so it would be fitting if it began again with a new Ark.

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  • Goldie fish
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    Prince Charles 'saves Ark Royal’
    The name HMS Ark Royal – one of the most historic in Navy history – will pass to a new aircraft carrier, after an intervention by the Prince of Wales.
    By Thomas Harding, Defence Correspondent 7:30AM BST 02 May 2011
    The Prince is understood to have privately agreed to allow HMS Prince of Wales, which is under construction, to be renamed Ark Royal, after the former flagship bearing the name was decommissioned.


    Workers construct a section of a new aircraft carrier at BAE Systems


    A senior Navy officer is understood to have approached the Prince, who holds the rank of admiral in the Navy, who made clear that he had no objection to the name change.

    A defence source said: “The Prince of Wales has been asked and he is pretty relaxed about it.”

    A senior Navy officer said it was virtually unheard of to change the name of a ship that was already being built.

    “But this does recognise that the name Ark Royal is iconic. The name conjures up the whole history of these islands and it would represent the future of the Navy and its past,” he said.

    Clarence House said no formal approach had been made on the name change

    A Ministry of Defence official said no decision had yet been made on naming the ship, which would be the sixth to be called Ark Royal.

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  • Goldie fish
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    It has both Tynes and Olympus. One for cruising, the other for sprinting. The tynes do the Cruising.
    2 of each.

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  • GoneToTheCanner
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    hi there
    In the last episode of "HMS Manchester", the engineer referred to the engines as Tynes, not Olympus. he said that they were in a spares pool managed by Rolls-Royce. The Tynes were turboprops and not pure jets like the Olympus. I wonder if they could substitute a more modern engine for the obsolete Tynes, to keep the ships active for longer.
    regards
    GttC

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  • Goldie fish
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    The wind down of the RN in the current period is quite distressing. We saw on the HMS Manchester show the other night how the Destroyer after catching a suspected smuggler in the Carribean, left the task of searching the vessel to a Civilian operated Support ship. We saw another RR Olympus break down and require removal, and later on the ships refrigeration system failed, necessitating the dumping of all perishable food from it's store.
    The current Navy fleet(as opposed to the RFA who seem to be taking much of the strain) is a shadow of anything even in the worst days of the past.
    Lusty is gone in 2014, with the new carriers not expected to enter service until a year later at best.
    4 Type 42s remain, one is gone in June
    only 2 type 45s in service out of a total of 6 to be built
    13 Type 23s soldier on, with no obvious replacement beyond concept stage.
    2 remaining Type 22s will be gone in April and June respectively.
    1 LPH in service almost 20 years already, with no obvious replacement
    2 LPDs, taking turns with the role of RN flagship, in the absence of a carrier
    4 Boomers
    7 Attack subs, with only one of the newer type, still undergoing teething trouble, while the older ones will be replaced on a one for one basis.
    15 minehunters remain in service, even though they are popular with emerging states keen to create a Navy.
    18 tiny River Patrol Boats, smaller than our Customs cutters, but much heavier on fuel
    And 4 assorted Survey vessels of differing sizes.

    Just over 50 "blue water" warships.
    41 warships were involved in the Falklands conflict in 1982...and they were able to rotate many out of theater, while continuing their commitment at home and in Hong Kong...

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  • golden rivet
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    watched last episode last night it was sad to see the wind down of a good ship..will they regret it who knows but a lot of knowledge will be lost and experience...

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  • Goldie fish
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    Originally posted by Brian McGrath View Post
    Goldie you should see if you can watch last Mondays episode of HMS Manchester, they found a fibre glass boat adrift and decided to sink it by gunfire, they used the main gun all of the other guns on the ship no good, the tried to hack and saw it no good, and finally filled it with petrol and set it on fire. it will more than likely be shown again.
    This show is being shown on Nat Geo at 8pm Tonight(Monday).

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