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    There was a lot of dicussion before about the DF having a parachute/airborne unit, heres a cheaper alternative

    A Marine Unit with sufficient lift for a Coy Gp, ie RIBs, LCVP (Landing Craft Vehicle & Personnel) carrying a Nissan + trailer or about 30 troops, an LCU (Landing Craft Utiliy) carrying a number of CVR(T) or 100+ troops

    Possibily a small Landing/Supply Ship that could also be used to supply overseas missions

    The Coy Gp could be trained in rotation (eg A Coy 1 Inf then A Coy 2 Inf)

    Saw a picture recently of Irish troops with UNMIL being landing by landing craft

    Why? - Cheaper than an airborne unit
    - How much of the earth's surface is covered in water?

    Although obviously some countries are landlocked
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  • #2
    I take it that the Marine unit will be better trained than their Army counterparts and have a different role.

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    • #3
      the unit itself could just be the administrative, logistics and operational support of the landing craft themselves, while the troops could spent eg a year in role, training instead of doing duties around the coast and overseas, only different roles would be to conduct marine landings and a part of RRF

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      • #4
        Such an LCU could only be procured if the NS got an increase in vessels & manpower. As it stands, the NS could do with more ships & men. It would be wasteful for them to crew a ninth vessel that would contribute little to the NS's primary tasks of coastal patrolling & fisheries protection.
        "The dolphins were monkeys that didn't like the land, walked back to the water, went back from the sand."

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        • #5
          crew of an LCU is less than 15

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          • #6
            I assume you're talking about something like this:


            This particular vessel has a complement of 13, but it would still be a drain on NS resources without contributing much to the primary tasks.
            "The dolphins were monkeys that didn't like the land, walked back to the water, went back from the sand."

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            • #7
              Well if any one is interested I posted my idea for a commando unit in the para thread but no one gave any feedback on it so if anyone would take a look and give an opinion it would be good:D
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              • #8
                It's not a bad idea, but I don't see it happening any time soon. And I certainly don't see it happening before the introduction of air mobility.
                "The dolphins were monkeys that didn't like the land, walked back to the water, went back from the sand."

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                • #9
                  No. Average IQ of DF too high :p

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                  • #10
                    This LCVP has a crew of 3
                    Can Carry: 20 troops / Land Rover & trailer / 5.5 tons
                    Range: 150 miles
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                    • #11
                      LCU has a crew of 6
                      Can Carry: 120 troops / 4 trucks / 4 Land Rover & trailers
                      Range: 200 miles

                      ARW operate Intruder RIBs which can carry about 10 troops with a crew of 1/2

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                      • #12
                        this is the intruder RIB
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                        • #13
                          I know I'm gonna get slagged for this but what about the use of hovercrafts, I've heard of them being used by the brits in Iraq.

                          I don't know if they can be used on open seas like a LCU but they can be taken inland and into shallow waters which is a bonus.
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                          To close with and kill the enemy in all weather conditions, night and day and over any terrain

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Brian
                            this is the intruder RIB
                            That looks like what the SEALs use.
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                            • #15
                              Eh, it's a RIB, you can see these in any marina....


                              Re: the ships, where exactly would they be used, they don't look big enough to make it across to invade the Isle of Man when that takes place in 2006.
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