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  • Kieran
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    ive heard of exercises being run there off peacock class vessels which were joined at cobh

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  • Goldie fish
    Tim Horgan

  • Goldie fish
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    Surely the sign on the wall will tell you otherwise. You really need to use spellchecker.

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  • Kieran
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    Originally posted by Goldie fish
    Some photos from such an Army/NS exercise HERE
    lit me guess an fca exercise in fort daveis

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  • Kieran
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    the problem with a marine unit is that this country is still over concerned with farmers and land based things then they are anything to do with the sea

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  • Goldie fish
    Tim Horgan

  • Goldie fish
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    Some photos from such an Army/NS exercise HERE

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  • DeV
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    The requirement?

    The PDF seem to thing there is some type of requirement...

    a company from 1 Inf Bn did a naval landing from LE Eithne, as part of a Battalion Group exercise, in Donegal a few years ago

    all the FIBUA exercises around Fort Davis seem to include a NS vessel and a amphibious landing

    used on ops by Irish troops in East Timor

    used on ops by Irish troops in Liberia

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  • Slacker
    Too much time on COD...

  • Slacker
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    I voted yes...........but then again I'm a biased recruit who wants a good excuse to stay in the navy (sort of) and be better than his FCA counterparts at their tactics (hur hur) :D

    Seriously, while it would be nice to have a marine unit, the support costs (i.e. a ship to launch marines from) would be too high. Better off with regs training on RIBs....

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  • Rooster
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    So really what is needed is'nt a marine corps but more like a small lightly equipped army/naval unit that has the capability to get stores/small numbers of troops either up a river or onto a beach (obviously undefended)
    The troops themselves may not even be marine trained but the crew of the small craft would need decent boat handling skills.
    Yet again, as andy said it boils down to money.

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  • Goldie fish
    Tim Horgan

  • Goldie fish
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    Just want to stop everyone for a while...You are discussing all these ships without identifying a purpose.

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  • Victor
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    It's OK, we can better the USN with the MV Ulysses http://www.irishferries.com/fleet.shtml

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  • HavocIRL
    Viking

  • HavocIRL
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    Has anyone seen the LHA or LHD class ships the US uses, they have everything a marine unit would need: Harrier jump jets, Super cobra attack helicopters, MH-60 helicopters and enough room for a marine compliment of 1,900. This would be all any amphibious assault would need on one ship.

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  • Victor
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    One solution would be the German ARAPHAHO (sp?) -type ships, which take a commercial freighter and add specially fitted out twenty foot containers (e.g. you could have intel, training, stores, accommodation or other loads), depending on the mission. They also have a large helicopter pad. Putting a 25 tonne crane up front would mean you could have a LCVP (or similar) or two. Adding a vehicle deck and a side ramp could also be an option.

    With this you could have a training / patrol ship for use in home waters and a transport ship for overseas.

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  • andy
    4 Star General

  • andy
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    It really all boils down to money, but yes we could use them but we dont need them yet. So many other requirements at the moment.

    However an example maybe sending a few ships inc landing ships to liberia with the Wing etc would have been a good idea

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  • rod and serpent
    In Arduis Fidelis

  • rod and serpent
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    Is the Army engineers not trained to handle RIBs. The RE have an anphibious engineer based in Germany they do similer task.

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  • Goldie fish
    Tim Horgan

  • Goldie fish
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    Though some may scoff at the idea,I would be in favour of army units having at least a decent amphib capability. Consider the amount of this island covered by bogs,lakes and Rivers...all of these,in particular the Suir,Blackwater and Shannon,are known for their flooding. The DPM wearers should be competent in the use of boats,and operating from same,in the same way as they carry out debussing drills from an APC. Its all well and good training in the Hills of Lilworth and wicklow,but what happens when the rains come to this frequently damp land?
    I dont think its a totally naval matter.
    A certain amount of amphib capability is required ..Not quite the SBS,not quite the Marines....but a unit dedicated to this particular type of warfare,and not just in the elite sense,as seen by the ARW and their (Dungarvan built) RIBs

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