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  • It happens a lot more frequently than you'd expect. Same goes for stern ramps. Madness having any large hatch up front. SFA to do with CPV/IPV though.
    For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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    • Both the peacocks were transported to the U.K. from Hong Kong by ship and handed over to the naval service there total non story

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      • Originally posted by Jaque'ammer View Post
        I was just thinking that it would be a little ridiculous to make 40-odd crew half circumnavigate the globe
        It would be a bell of a junket for them, though! I bet there would be no shortage of volunteers
        'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
        'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
        Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
        He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
        http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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        • Originally posted by Flamingo View Post
          It would be a bell of a junket for them, though! I bet there would be no shortage of volunteers
          Not in a 50M vessel designed for lean manning in coastal waters. When we buy Japan Built cars, we don't drive them back to Ireland from the factory ourselves.
          Its a stupid article with no basis in fact whatsoever.
          For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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          • Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post

            Not in a 50M vessel designed for lean manning in coastal waters. When we buy Japan Built cars, we don't drive them back to Ireland from the factory ourselves.
            Its a stupid article with no basis in fact whatsoever.
            Fair enough!
            'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
            'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
            Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
            He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
            http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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            • New French-built CPVs for Senegal, not dissimilar to the Lake class but packing a much bigger punch:

              https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news...v-for-senegal/

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              • Originally posted by Tempest View Post
                New French-built CPVs for Senegal, not dissimilar to the Lake class but packing a much bigger punch:

                https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news...v-for-senegal/
                French have been building tiny but efficient CPVs for years. The Marte missiles make it pretty potent too, though Senegal is on the fringes of AQ in the Sahara, so maybe they are thinking ahead. Its an ideal platform for a small navy.
                For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                • I think comparing it to the Lake Class is a little disingenious, it's much longer, has a much longer range, and twice the crew.

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                  • Originally posted by Jaque'ammer View Post
                    I think comparing it to the Lake Class is a little disingenious, it's much longer, has a much longer range, and twice the crew.
                    Look again.
                    OPV58S
                    • Length: 62.20 meters
                    • Width: 9.50 meters
                    • Draft: 2.90 meters
                    • Speed: 21 knots
                    • Displacement
                    • Range / Endurance: 25 days, 4,500 nautical miles @ 12 knots
                    • Hull / Structure: Steel / Aluminum
                    • Accommodations: 48 (24 crew + 24 mission personnel)
                    • Stern ramp for two RHIBs
                    Lake class
                    • Length:55m
                    • Width: 9m
                    • Draft; 2.9m
                    • Speed: 25kn
                    • Displacement:
                    • Range/Endurance: 3000nm
                    • Hull/Structure: Aluminium
                    • Accommodations: 32 crew +16 others=48
                    • Davits for two RHIBs


                    For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                    • Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post

                      Look again.
                      OPV58S
                      • Length: 62.20 meters
                      • Width: 9.50 meters
                      • Draft: 2.90 meters
                      • Speed: 21 knots
                      • Displacement
                      • Range / Endurance: 25 days, 4,500 nautical miles @ 12 knots
                      • Hull / Structure: Steel / Aluminum
                      • Accommodations: 48 (24 crew + 24 mission personnel)
                      • Stern ramp for two RHIBs
                      Lake class
                      • Length:55m
                      • Width: 9m
                      • Draft; 2.9m
                      • Speed: 25kn
                      • Displacement:
                      • Range/Endurance: 3000nm
                      • Hull/Structure: Aluminium
                      • Accommodations: 32 crew +16 others=48
                      • Davits for two RHIBs

                      Apologies, I was going off the Wiki page for the Lake which says the crew is 36, of which 16 are non-crew staff

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                      • Originally posted by Jaque'ammer View Post
                        I think comparing it to the Lake Class is a little disingenious, it's much longer, has a much longer range, and twice the crew.
                        And just maybe ten times the cost ....

                        No contract value has been released, but the French group president Pascal Piriou indicated it in “several hundred million euros”.

                        https://www.edrmagazine.eu/piriou-gr...e-armed-forces

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                        • Nice photo of our 2 IPVs taken last week by a USAF MC130J flying over the NZ Naval base. Other RNZN ships are also in the photo.
                          For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                          • Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post


                            Nice photo of our 2 IPVs taken last week by a USAF MC130J flying over the NZ Naval base. Other RNZN ships are also in the photo.
                            Smart, mature and foresight Naval planning in one picture. From the ship mix to the base. Well done NZ!

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                            • Now that the Peacocks have been decommissioned and the fact that the security situation has changed should we not now be looking for more of a naval vessel rather than a more coast guard orientated vessel. In which case I think the the Singapore Independence class would be a good fit. Although built in Singapore the design is basically from Kockums (Saab) which is why their MCMV80 looks so similar. As manning seems to be the issue the basic vessel can be operated with just 23, while a full crew is 29. Put a hangar for an small UAV and we have a massive increase in capability.

                              Report from Xavier Vavasseur (Naval News)
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw-2XdSxLpA

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                              • A bit overkill for fisheries inspections... which is the only thing SecGens of various depts with maritime briefs and the government want the Naval Service to do.

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