CPV Replacement

[Sparky42]

It'll be interesting to see if one will be stationed on the east coast now as proprosed.

I thought both were going on the east coast?

[na grohmiti]

I thought both were going on the east coast?

They have most of a year to sort the logs of that out now, given the time it will take to re-certify the ships and transport them here.

[Sarsfield]

Great news. May this also offer the opportunity to replace the second hand Rhino’s with either Mauser 27 MLG or Leonardo 30 Marlin remote weapon stations, as the primary forward weapon on the new “P70’s” and secondary weapons on the P50’s / P60’s. Any thoughts?

[Sparky42]

Great news. May this also offer the opportunity to replace the second hand Rhino’s with either Mauser 27 MLG or Leonardo 30 Marlin remote weapon stations, as the primary forward weapon on the new “P70’s” and secondary weapons on the P50’s / P60’s. Any thoughts?

Isn’t there a procurement process underway for their replacement anyway?

[na grohmiti]

Great news. May this also offer the opportunity to replace the second hand Rhino’s with either Mauser 27 MLG or Leonardo 30 Marlin remote weapon stations, as the primary forward weapon on the new “P70’s” and secondary weapons on the P50’s / P60’s. Any thoughts?

MSI D25 maybe? I believe they are already plumbed for them (Our NZ friend may be able to confirm when back in our timezone) plus they are the same weapon as fitted to Cavalry Mowags. NZ just upgraded their OPV fit to the Rafael Typhoon so who knows what's lyin about in stores...

[DeV]

RNZN press release

https://www.nzdf.mil.nz/news/two-former-rnzn-inshore-patrol-vessels-sold-to-the-republic-of-ireland/

[EUFighter]

MSI D25 maybe? I believe they are already plumbed for them (Our NZ friend may be able to confirm when back in our timezone) plus they are the same weapon as fitted to Cavalry Mowags. NZ just upgraded their OPV fit to the Rafael Typhoon so who knows what's lyin about in stores...

Is the MSI DS25 not fitted with a 25mm Bushmaster while the MOWAGs have the bigger 30mm version?

[na grohmiti]

Is the MSI DS25 not fitted with a 25mm Bushmaster while the MOWAGs have the bigger 30mm version?

I genuinely keep getting mixed up as which is which.

[Anzac]

Firstly congratulations to the Naval Service on buying a couple of good ships in good condition at a very good price.

Of course we wont see their replacement which was due 2023 has now been pushed out to 2027. No information on who is doing the refit and recommissioning. Assuming it is Babcocks (NZ) at the naval dockyard doing he work, but it may go back to Whangarei yard - no local announcement surrounding that.

Originally was conceived to have the 25mm Mk 38 mod 2 in RNZN service. A similar generic 25mm-30mm gun should be able to be installed and integrated.

[na grohmiti]

Thanks ANZAC.
The public commentary on this has been interesting.
In NZ:
We should never have sold them, the reserve/(insert maritime organisation here) could have had them
Another bad decision make by Helen Clark
We should have sent them to Tonga/any other pacific island nation
Ireland will only use them to harass fishermen.

In Ireland
We cant crew them
They'll join the other ships on the quay wall
we could spend the money on health/housing/old people/puppies instead
They are useless without a gun
the Kiwis thought they were rubbish, why do we have them
More brown envelopes for Simon
Useless for Irish Waters.
Why is the work being done in NZ, why not let someone here do it.
We should have got Holland class OPV instead.
etc

We are a nation of Cranks. But its great to see how much in common we have with our brothers on Middle Earth.

[Anzac]

You find most cranks on places like Facebook and in Newspaper columns. Plenty of muppets everywhere.

We only ever needed two IPV's and not four and with respect to OPV's we needed four and only got two. Politician budget caps the obvious issue.

Looking forward to seeing them up and sailing in the Irish Sea and now the attention can be turned towards the Eithne replacement.

[DeV]

You find most cranks on places like Facebook and in Newspaper columns. Plenty of muppets everywhere.

We only ever needed two IPV's and not four and with respect to OPV's we needed four and only got two. Politician budget caps the obvious issue.

Looking forward to seeing them up and sailing in the Irish Sea and now the attention can be turned towards the Eithne replacement.

Hopefully the 2nd hand purchase helps speed up the process

can the Lake class carry any TEUs?

[na grohmiti]

Hopefully the 2nd hand purchase helps speed up the process

can the Lake class carry any TEUs?

A bit of a squeeze, and the mooring pins/bits are probably in the way.

[Anzac]

can the Lake class carry any TEUs?

No. But one of the ideas explored but never put into practice was instead of using both davits for the two 7.3m RHIB's, the idea was to sail with just one and use the other davit to launch and recover a UUV.

[ODIN]

In Ireland
We cant crew them
They'll join the other ships on the quay wall
we could spend the money on health/housing/old people/puppies instead
They are useless without a gun
the Kiwis thought they were rubbish, why do we have them
More brown envelopes for Simon
Useless for Irish Waters.
Why is the work being done in NZ, why not let someone here do it.
We should have got Holland class OPV instead.
etc

We are a nation of Cranks. But its great to see how much in common we have with our brothers on Middle Earth.

Typical response to military spend in this country