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  • Times of London reporting that UK will offer 2 T23's, Monmouth and Montrose, FOC if Greece goes ahead with and order for T31's. Doubt very much if that's going to help swing a deal!

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    • Hey, mind if we unload these thirty year old ships on you if you go ahead and buy the new untried design from us?
      For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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      • Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
        Hey, mind if we unload these thirty year old ships on you if you go ahead and buy the new untried design from us?
        Ships which by the way we’ve pretty much stripped of anything working for our own hulls so it’s going to cost you even if they are free…
        Yeah can’t see the Greeks being that crazy.

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        • Originally posted by Sparky42 View Post

          Ships which by the way we’ve pretty much stripped of anything working for our own hulls so it’s going to cost you even if they are free…
          Yeah can’t see the Greeks being that crazy.
          HMS Montrose is very much alive and well...shes been based in Bahrain for the last year or so conducting Ops in the Middle East;

          https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-an...29-op-sentinel

          Monmouth has just been struck off along with two minehunters.
          'History is a vast early warning system'. Norman Cousins

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          • Originally posted by spider View Post

            HMS Montrose is very much alive and well...shes been based in Bahrain for the last year or so conducting Ops in the Middle East;

            https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-an...29-op-sentinel

            Monmouth has just been struck off along with two minehunters.
            The Gulf has always been under threat due to the proliferation of soft targets and the opportunistic mind set of the adjacent power. CTF Sentinel and its components were challenged to some degree by the tanker boarding by armed personnel last week. Maybe impromptu convoys are needed or more stationed naval units on the routes. Some explanation of ships loosing control of steering needs elucidation. Cannot fathom that one, unless ships on auto are using a GPS type compass which can be hacked or locked on course. Four ships said they were gone NUC and could not steer. That is a serious incident.

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            • Originally posted by ancientmariner View Post

              The Gulf has always been under threat due to the proliferation of soft targets and the opportunistic mind set of the adjacent power. CTF Sentinel and its components were challenged to some degree by the tanker boarding by armed personnel last week. Maybe impromptu convoys are needed or more stationed naval units on the routes. Some explanation of ships loosing control of steering needs elucidation. Cannot fathom that one, unless ships on auto are using a GPS type compass which can be hacked or locked on course. Four ships said they were gone NUC and could not steer. That is a serious incident.
              Reports are saying they were boarded by persons unidentified, ordered to proceed to Iranian port. Crew disabled engines. Informed ship was NUC. US warships attended and unidentified persons left.
              It's bordering on international piracy, when you combine it with the recent drone attack on an Israeli owned tanker, which led to the deaths of 2 crew.
              For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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              • Some interesting bits of news in UK naval journals- they note Babcocks contract to update aspects of propulsion on a remaining 3 of the P60's. They also mention that HMS Kent is in the Pacific exercising with adjacent allies and berthed in GUAM for R&R. The ship of the week is HMS Severn ( decommissioned 4 Years ago) brought back on service and painted in the WW11 western approaches camouflage similar to HMS Tamar. They now have at least 8 OPV's crewed in service and some overseas including South Atlantic.

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                • Originally posted by ancientmariner View Post
                  Some interesting bits of news in UK naval journals- they note Babcocks contract to update aspects of propulsion on a remaining 3 of the P60's. They also mention that HMS Kent is in the Pacific exercising with adjacent allies and berthed in GUAM for R&R. The ship of the week is HMS Severn ( decommissioned 4 Years ago) brought back on service and painted in the WW11 western approaches camouflage similar to HMS Tamar. They now have at least 8 OPV's crewed in service and some overseas including South Atlantic.
                  Interestingly, they are using the OPV with its 30mm cannon and manually operated secondary weapons, in place of frigates.
                  OPV escorting Russian Naval vessels through the channel.
                  OPV as the RN presence in the Caribbean. (With the RFA)
                  OPV as the RN presence in the Mediterranean (including Gib).
                  OPV heading for Asia-Pacific.
                  All operations that would have been carried out by a Type 42 or Type 23 in the past.
                  One hopes that presumptions on their commitment in these areas are not made based on the downgrading of the platform.
                  For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                  • The only standing RN presence in the Mediterranean for years has been patrol boats based at Gibraltar and Cyprus. So the B2 River is a step up.

                    Theres been no permanent RN presence in Asia since the late 90s so again this is a new departure and setting the conditions for the Littoral Strike Groups in a few years.

                    The RN also regularly deploy frigates to escort Russian Naval vessels through the channel. Sometimes they use OPVs… sometimes they use mine hunters. The French do likewise. I don’t think we should read too much into what type of platform either country deploys in these instances…I’d be more concerned if they were unable to deploy any.

                    The Caribbean is best done by an OPV. The mission there is purely constabulary/ disaster relief and the River B2 is accompanied by an RFA. A T23 or T45 (if you can find one that works) would be a waste of resources.
                    'History is a vast early warning system'. Norman Cousins

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                    • The Poles have chosen the Arrowhead 140 design as their future Miecznik multi-role frigate ordering three vessels to be built locally.

                      ​​​​​​https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news...olish-frigate/

                      From the supplied image above it seems they have gone for SeaRam CIWS, 8 deck launched ASM's and 32 VLS for SeaCeptor, thus quite a bit more combat orientated than the very basic Type 31 variant the RN is getting - more closer to the Iver Huitfelds. Still using the TACTICOS CMS though.

                      Will be interesting to see the final project cost for the three ship build. Will it stay around €1.50-€1.95 billion benchmark funding?
                      Last edited by Anzac; 5 March 2022, 10:42.

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                      • Originally posted by Anzac View Post
                        The Poles have chosen the Arrowhead 140 design as their future Miecznik multi-role frigate ordering three vessels to be built locally.

                        ​​​​​​https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news...olish-frigate/

                        From the supplied image above it seems they have gone for SeaRam CIWS, 8 deck launched ASM's and 32 VLS for SeaCeptor, thus quite a bit more combat orientated than the very basic Type 31 variant the RN is getting - more closer to the Iver Huitfelds. Still using the TACTICOS CMS though.

                        Will be interesting to see the final project cost for the three ship build. Will it stay around €1.50-€1.95 billion benchmark funding?
                        It will be more interesting to see if the Poles can handle building them given how their last naval project went:
                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gawron-class_corvette

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                        • Theres an awful sense of deja vi here...
                          For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                          • The Poles have just completed building the first batch of three Kormoran 2 Class minehunters. Probably a more accurate take on current Polish naval shipbuilding capability and sustianed funding streams than the flawed Gawron.


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                            • Originally posted by Anzac View Post
                              The Poles have chosen the Arrowhead 140 design as their future Miecznik multi-role frigate ordering three vessels to be built locally.

                              ​​​​​​https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news...olish-frigate/

                              From the supplied image above it seems they have gone for SeaRam CIWS, 8 deck launched ASM's and 32 VLS for SeaCeptor, thus quite a bit more combat orientated than the very basic Type 31 variant the RN is getting - more closer to the Iver Huitfelds. Still using the TACTICOS CMS though.

                              Will be interesting to see the final project cost for the three ship build. Will it stay around €1.50-€1.95 billion benchmark funding?
                              The Poles have now decided on the weapons fit.
                              https://defence24.com/armed-forces/m...gates-selected

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