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  • Bravo20
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    Got the threads mixed up. Thought we were talking about the next Irish Navy ship.

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  • Auldsod
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    Originally posted by Bravo20 View Post
    Of course this all pre the government realising it needs to find 3 Bn to fund rural broadband
    Mothball the Air Corps sure. Worth it so young Johnny from Schull can play Fortnite.

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  • Herald
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    Originally posted by Bravo20 View Post
    Of course this all pre the government realising it needs to find 3 Bn to fund rural broadband
    What??

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  • ropebag
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    Originally posted by Bravo20 View Post
    Of course this all pre the government realising it needs to find 3 Bn to fund rural broadband
    Look at who the new SofS Defence is - the MOD isn't going to be losing any of its budget anytime while Maudant is a political threat to either May or any of her potential successors.

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  • Bravo20
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    Of course this all pre the government realising it needs to find 3 Bn to fund rural broadband

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  • Sparky42
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    Looks like the 250m cap is being dropped with reports that "government furnished equipment" will be removed from the costings. Guessing they came to the conclusion that whatever you could get for 250m wasn't worth it.

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  • Anzac
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    Originally posted by Sparky42 View Post
    Will the current trend lines of the NZ MOD fund two all up 26's?
    Around $3.2 Billion in 2015 dollars (€2.0B) has been forecasted for this project from the 2015-2030 $20B Defence future CapEx fund. The Future Surface Combatant project is due to start this year with capability investigation studies. Through the AUSCANNZUKUS relationship RNZN has liaison technical panel status with its cousin "TTCP Group" Navies on the Type 26 variants and the USN FFG(X) project. It will not be until at least 2025 that the Future Surface Combatant project begins to move into the more tangible business case stages.

    The hull itself is only one of a number of aspects in Frigate selection. Much like the P-8A, its airframe and baseline systems are just a vanilla B738-ERX. It is stuff inside like CMS, EW and its intelligence gathering capabilities that make it matter.
    Last edited by Anzac; 25 February 2019, 09:40.

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  • Sparky42
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    Originally posted by DeV View Post
    Considering the Australians and Canadians are going for the Type 26...
    Will the current trend lines of the NZ MOD fund two all up 26's?

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  • DeV
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    Considering the Australians and Canadians are going for the Type 26...

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  • Sparky42
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    The NZ Anzac's have or are just going through midlife reifts (Sea Ceptor being fitted for example), the WP suggests that they won't go for their replacements till 2030 ish (and we all know that could slip), so a few years after the predicted 31 build should be done.

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  • na grohmiti
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    The old reliables that bought UK designs for export in the past have gone elsewhere for their surface combatants in recent years. Mostly Germany. Most of the rest like ex RN frigates, instead of newbuilds.

    It will be difficult to sell such a specific new design to a foreign customer who doesn't have its own design already in the pipeline. The best hope is for small quantities. Are the Kiwis due an ANZAC replacement for example? It seems like they are going down the major upgrade route in the interim. I don't see them follow the RAN down the Type 26 route.

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  • Sparky42
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    Originally posted by hptmurphy View Post
    How much per unit?
    Now isn't that the 250 million pound question... I still think the UK will only meet that by pulling through from the 23's, for a customer buying new having to fit it out and everything, north of that I'd bet.

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  • hptmurphy
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    Originally posted by Sparky42 View Post
    How much per unit?

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  • Sparky42
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    Some more from Babcock on their Type 31 option:
    https://www.arrowhead140.com/
    https://www.arrowhead140.com/wp-cont...T-brochure.pdf

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  • na grohmiti
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    The design Atlas Electronic UK is providing is not yet clear. However they are sticking rigidly to the £125m per hull price tag. Contracts will be awarded this time next year.

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