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  • Not sure if any country has actually ordered it yet but SEA Krait Defence System is interesting

    https://www.sea.co.uk/defence/unders...marine-warfare

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    • A new containerised option for a Variable Depth Sonar - Sea Lancer 2

      https://www.ultra.group/media/2449/s...heet_final.pdf

      some maybe familiar with “subbrief” on YouTube…. He says about the published specs and capabilities “…. Impressive….. Hell yea!”

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      • "Can be containerised into 20 foot mission module."
        EXCELLENT, those TEU spots will be useful after all.
        For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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        • Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
          "Can be containerised into 20 foot mission module."
          EXCELLENT, those TEU spots will be useful after all.
          There is a few different containerised VDS available so imho yes

          they do need power, the deck needs to be able to take the weight, not all out self contained (some need external equipment, some need the display consoles etc to be external)…. But there are options

          of course you need a reference library and trained operators

          and host vessel signature needs to be considered
          Last edited by DeV; 18 January 2023, 14:59.

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          • https://euro-sd.com/2022/05/articles...wing-industry/

            a few options on containerised VDS

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            • Originally posted by DeV View Post
              A VDS system is not cheap, and given that several would be needed the investment would not be insignificant. There would also have to be a trdae with adding a MAD system to the C295MPA aircraft. They have the advantage of being able to cover a larger area faster. What should not be missed is that any underwater target could hear the hunter long before the hunter finds the target.

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              • Originally posted by EUFighter View Post

                A VDS system is not cheap, and given that several would be needed the investment would not be insignificant. There would also have to be a trdae with adding a MAD system to the C295MPA aircraft. They have the advantage of being able to cover a larger area faster. What should not be missed is that any underwater target could hear the hunter long before the hunter finds the target.
                Not sure cost wise how the containerised options compare but my point is that the P50s and P60s could potentially carry them (no they wouldn’t have ASW armament but at least they could detect a threat).

                also potentially less more and more capability than a hull mounted sonars (which can’t be moved around the fleet like a containerised VDS ((not that you want to be doing that all the time either)). But like carrying the NSDS containers, it makes the vessel Multi-role.

                I always had an assumption that MAD was an ASW aircraft’s primary sensor. It isn’t normally. An ASW aircraft will generally use sonar bouys (and/or dipping sonar if a heli) to detect the presence and rough location of a submarine (normally a bit like triangulation). The MAD will generally be used once a potential submarine has been detected to “localise” (get a more accurate location (as it is shorter ranged) and to confirm that it is a metal object if not an obvious submarine (as opposed to say a whale).

                Absolutely but it would be a deterrent

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