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    Depending on who you talk to,Its either a quill or a comb(not a comb you keep your hair with-but something to do with the feathered end of an arrow).
    I'm not gonna argue this one.
    Its like a CQMS having a wheel....some people only see the Q

    (Thanks to bailer for the images)
    Many more say the CS has the wheel...

    I once referred to it as the feather and key and was quickly corrected,and told it was Key and comb...(Quill doesnt alliterate as well as comb).
    In any case now,all those not involved in either Seamans or Engineering(at sea) will be part of Logs,though considering the way things go in the Army,Engineering too could be considered part of logs..

    Its interesting to see that He dealt with Murfs paperwork. There is a good chance that everyone who Joined the NS since 1981 has had their details pass through his hands,and prior to that he was a Training NCO,so some could say that the NS has a lot to be thankful to WO Bates for.


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    Quill for writing....going back to when the admin branch was broken down in to scribes or writers...and key when the logs side were known as dusries as they looked after clothing and supplies.

    Why not ask the man himself as he was a member of this divisionsince time began.

    again look at the arm patch it self it is far more descrptive
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Goldie fish
      I'm not gonna argue this one.

      I once referred to it as the feather and key and was quickly corrected,and told it was Key and comb...(Quill doesnt alliterate as well as comb).
      At risk of repeating myself


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      • #4
        no point in arguing as it is a Quill...my late gran Uncle was divisional officer and as a senior NCO during the Emergency was responsible for the inception of the Branch, bailers images are incorrect....ask any CQMS he will tell lyou its a wheel crossed with a quill and key...what sense would comb make,

        Who ever argued with you hasn't a clue of naval insignia or its tradition. Refer them to me I'll soon put them staright.
        Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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        • #5
          What part of "In not going to argue this one" did you not understand?

          Duly edited.


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          • #6
            well you did bring it up....!
            Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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            • #7
              Right then smartypants...why do Irish Naval officers wear a star on their rank Markings instead of a curl Like the RN or some more Irish symbol? Considering our Army Officer system follows the British system,as does the Air Corps...


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              • #8
                Goldie Fish, in answer to ur last, once heard it was due to been a Republic (no monarch ie). french, yanks etc they all have stars, same as the junior rates they wear a bobbin on their hats. how does that sound?

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                • #9
                  I wanted Murf to answer ...The soviet navy also had stars..hardly a republic..


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                  • #10
                    The Union of Socialist Soviet Republics.
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                    With 50,000 men getting killed a week, who's going to miss a pigeon?

                    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.

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                    • #11
                      OK,that was a poor example...


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                      • #12
                        sorry goldie for spoiling your fun, jumped to fast without read the thread correctly.
                        Am I right so, is that the answer?

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                        • #13
                          I dont know...its not a quiz..

                          Is Indiarrrrrrrr a republic? Or is it part of the Commonwealth?


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                          • #14
                            Well,

                            Being Resident expert on at least 1 Subject Here's My 2 Cents...

                            The CQ symbol is "A wheel, a Quill, A Key, a 'Q' and a Rifle. Symbolising Transport, Paperwork (encompassing all records accounts etc.), Stores, Quaters (accomodation) and Weapons (as in the Storage of). Now due to the haphazard way the military authorities in this country handle the 'heraldry' and symbolism of our insignia these get mixed up. The Quill has sometimes been replaced with an Arrow, Sometimes with a sewing needle.

                            Now in the New Logs corps symbol the Quill and Rifle have been replaced by a needle and Thread respectively. With the Addition of a Snake (have to let the Medics join in)

                            The Naval Variant for the Admin Brance would originally have been a Quill and Key. Which over time in Rank marking lessons been simplified to Comb and keys. and passed on as learnt.

                            The Irish Naval Rank markings reflect the American ones more than the Royal Navy. And yes a Star is more commonly used by Republics as in non "royal" navies.



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                            • #15
                              Thanks bailer...shows i didnt dream it..


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