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  • #61
    Originally posted by hptmurphy View Post
    We don't have the resources to do more other than that which we offer.

    Aoife is to have her hull surveyed in the drydock next week pending transfer,L.E. Samuel Beckett has warranty issues that would preclude her from deploment such as this, the CPVs are not suitable for an amount of reasons, the delay of James Joyce has been put back and again would probably have the same warranty issues as Beckett, leaving Roisin and Niamh as the other suitable vessels.

    L.E. Eithne is not suitable in my opinion for reasons already offered and if L.E. Aisling were to be deployed, might as well book the crew tickets home by air.....

    If we were full up to strenght, we could indeed offer more, but we're a little thin on the ground regarding suitable vessels.

    Fine for the Italians who can nip home on the turn of a tide, we are looking at an extended unsupported deployment, with huge potential implications.

    Slow down, we'll get something out there as soon as the boxes are ticked.



    Eithne well capable, only downside is speed. Aisling one of the most reliable vessels in the fleet, just ask the ERAs....

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    • #62
      Send Aisling out, Leave her there?
      German 1: Private Schnutz, I have bad news for you.
      German 2: Private? I am a general!
      German 1: That is the bad news.

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      • #63
        The Peacocks?

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        • #64
          Originally posted by DeV View Post
          The Peacocks?
          Crew conditions would be murder....

          Eithne well capable, only downside is speed.
          Same issue with Aisling if speed was the issue separation of refugees to an isolation area would be a concern , getting them on board given the height of the freeboard and limited access to flight deck from afterdeck.

          Quick question, what warranty issues for Beckett would restrict her from deployment?
          Don't think the NS would be overly happy to send her to the med until the problems with JJ are sorted just in case they are replicated in SB
          Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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          • #65
            Originally posted by hptmurphy View Post
            Don't think the NS would be overly happy to send her to the med until the problems with JJ are sorted just in case they are replicated in SB
            If it is in the props surely the problem would have show itself before now, besides hasn't she already been in the graving dock for inspections before the Warranty ran out?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Sparky42 View Post
              If it is in the props surely the problem would have show itself before now, besides hasn't she already been in the graving dock for inspections before the Warranty ran out?
              I don't know the specifics of the issues and reckon that the warrantys are a little more detailed than your standard parts and labour for 12 months given a ships complexity and the fact they are building a second one.
              Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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              • #67
                Surely the warranty shouldn't limit the use of the vessel though
                There is no problem that cannot be fixed with high explosive.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Stinger View Post
                  Surely the warranty shouldn't limit the use of the vessel though
                  If you declare a guarantee fault that is limiting the full use of the ship , then it needs to be mended. Any other action weakens the guarantee. Likewise , unless your Techs are trained by equipment providers to undertake guarantee work then you are waiting for the supplier to mend the problem. If you use the ship, whether or which. you are diluting your case for who pays for what?

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                  • #69
                    As was discovered when the Mowags started giving trouble overseas....
                    German 1: Private Schnutz, I have bad news for you.
                    German 2: Private? I am a general!
                    German 1: That is the bad news.

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                    • #70
                      Ah!!
                      There is no problem that cannot be fixed with high explosive.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by na grohmití View Post
                        As was discovered when the Mowags started giving trouble overseas....
                        Wasn't that to do with canabulisation ?

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                        • #72
                          It was also to do with warranty, which Mowag walked away from once they realised there had been cannibalisation.
                          German 1: Private Schnutz, I have bad news for you.
                          German 2: Private? I am a general!
                          German 1: That is the bad news.

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                          • #73
                            Getting back to migrants and the Mediterranean sea. MOD announced today that LE Eithne is being deployed on task next week subject to agreed protocols with the local Naval Authorities. Obviously adaptable space matters. Pity about the monument on F.Dk. Port. Otherwise emergency land-ons available if we had an HCO/FDO.
                            Good to see something happen. Bon Voyage and be Good To Go.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by ancientmariner View Post
                              Getting back to migrants and the Mediterranean sea. MOD announced today that LE Eithne is being deployed on task next week subject to agreed protocols with the local Naval Authorities. Obviously adaptable space matters. Pity about the monument on F.Dk. Port. Otherwise emergency land-ons available if we had an HCO/FDO.
                              Good to see something happen. Bon Voyage and be Good To Go.
                              Flight deck land-on capability is gone since 2000 - let it go!
                              The additional RHIB will prove more valuable in being able to recover people from the water, as the flightdeck and hangar will be used to house anyone recovered, thereby negating the use of the flight deck for helo ops.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Dogwatch View Post
                                Flight deck land-on capability is gone since 2000 - let it go!
                                The additional RHIB will prove more valuable in being able to recover people from the water, as the flightdeck and hangar will be used to house anyone recovered, thereby negating the use of the flight deck for helo ops.
                                i think the wider lesson from all this is that, in the immortal words, you're going to need a bigger boat...

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