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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostSurely the window for a new port on the East Coast has closed with Brexit, and the majority of our freight no longer coming from or going to the UK?
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
3 hours by motorway to Rosslare, Waterford or Cork.
the days of clustering manufacturing around a port area is gone, with the improvements in the motorway network.
Otherwise Leibherr would never have built their STS crane facility in Killarney.
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Originally posted by DeV View Post
without going into too much detail that for me would mean triple (or more) the trucks, drivers (who aren’t available), trailers, fuel, etc
Dell built PCs for the EMEA market for years, while being nowhere near either Ro-ro or Lo-lo terminal.
Some of you guys seem to think the sun revolves around Dublin. There is life, and industry outside the M50 you know.
Much of the freight currently leaving from Dublin port does not start its journey within the M50.
Moving Dublin port north the east coast is a dud with Belfast just a short hop up the motorway, and the same paperwork and admin required to get it to the UK anyway.
Finally, moving Dublin port elsewhere would be a great move for the operator doing LoLo on the south docks, who will no longer have to compete for pilot slots with their rivals on the North Wall.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
We don't have the truck driver shortage the UK has. Double trailers are already in use here, just not in built up areas.
Dell built PCs for the EMEA market for years, while being nowhere near either Ro-ro or Lo-lo terminal.
Some of you guys seem to think the sun revolves around Dublin. There is life, and industry outside the M50 you know.
Much of the freight currently leaving from Dublin port does not start its journey within the M50.
Moving Dublin port north the east coast is a dud with Belfast just a short hop up the motorway, and the same paperwork and admin required to get it to the UK anyway.
Finally, moving Dublin port elsewhere would be a great move for the operator doing LoLo on the south docks, who will no longer have to compete for pilot slots with their rivals on the North Wall.
not for 40HC’s there isn’t.
Dell set up in Limerick knowing where the nearest port (and airport) was, as did where I work.Last edited by DeV; 31 August 2021, 07:58.
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Originally posted by Graylion View Post
Not so - see the Continent. Our current rail system not being suitable for it is a different kettle of fish.
yes a daily train from say Dublin to Galway would take I think it is max 32 TEUs off the road but it will also mean more staging of containers and delays, for some business models that is fine for many it’s not. If it is sitting in a container it is costing money
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Seaports as critical shore-based infrastructure are particularly vulnerable to impacts such as sea level rise and increasing incidents of severe weather events. In excess of ninety percent of global trade by volume is transported by sea. In Ireland, seaports are of strategic importance to the national economy. As an island nation, ninety-eight percent of trade by volume comes through its seaports. Climate issues facing Irish ports include increasing storminess, such as the Atlantic storms experienced in the winter of 2014. Ireland provides a particularly valuable case study as the scale of Irish port sizes analysed in this research, range from 500,000 to 30 million throughput tonnage. This tonnage range, is more typical of port sizes globally, and adds relevance to the study. The specific objectives of this thesis are to establish the readiness of the seaport sector in Ireland to build adaptive capacity to respond to climate change and to assess lessons from and for Ireland in the context of international best practice. The research identified a lack of awareness and understanding of climate change amongst the sample population of seventy senior managers (comprising of national regulators and local authorities; commercial port harbour companies; and indigenous and multinational industries located in the port hinterland), as representatives of the maritime sector in Ireland. Evidence of a knowledge-gap was identified from in-depth semi-structured interviews conducted over a twelve month period. Many industry stakeholders were actually implementing adaptation measures within their organisational strategies, unaware of the explicit links with climate adaptation.
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Originally posted by ancientmariner View Post
Reflecting on your observations then our island needs will have shifted their axis/routing elsewhere. New ports nearer the sea are the wishes of the industry. Unless we are going through an industrial renaissance, we will still have a growing import tonnage and it looks like the multinational based pharmas will continue to grow our exports. The bigger problem is the dark money making habits of developers, buying cheap and delivering exponentially dear, with forever inbuilt costs for customers. The UK was largely a land bridge to be replaced by direct Ro/Ro and other services to European gateways.
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Originally posted by Graylion View PostLast edited by ancientmariner; 31 August 2021, 10:54.
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