Adequacy of Irish Ports

[na grohmiti]

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/stat...55391421382656
Crews refusing to leave. Fired via zoom.
Happy Brexit.

[DeV]

They have fired all staff, installed caretaker agency crews. Former staff are being invited back under new contracts and terms. Exactly what Irish Ferries did about 20 years ago.

no services for next few days

[na grohmiti]

P&O have at very short notice called all its vessels alongside for the next few hours in preparation for a company announcement.

https://twitter.com/poferriesupdate/...466221571?s=21

They have fired all staff, installed caretaker agency crews. Former staff are being invited back under new contracts and terms. Exactly what Irish Ferries did about 20 years ago.

[DeV]

P&O have at very short notice called all its vessels alongside for the next few hours in preparation for a company announcement.

https://twitter.com/poferriesupdate/...466221571?s=21

[na grohmiti]

I'm a bit sceptical of the plans, to be honest.

[Rhodes]

The Bremore crowd met with the Army and DoD last year in which they said they wanted all of Gormanston. They were politely told to **** off.

[DeV]

Bit of background from the above Bremore tender:

Ronan Group Real Estate (RGRE) and Drogheda Port Company have partnered to develop a greenfield port north of Bremore Point on the Meath coastline. As part of this development, Bremore Ireland Port Designated Activity Company (the “Contracting Authority”) invites tenders (“Tenders”) to this Request for Tenders (“RFT”) from economic operators (“Tenderers”) to create a multi-party framework agreement (the “Framework Agreement”) for the services as described in Appendix 1 to this RFT (the “Services”).
The Contracting Authority is developing a significant site to the north of Bremore Head, in county Meath. The development includes a new port on foreshore along with complementary infrastructure on the landside to accommodate port storage and processing facilities, port logistics operations and business development areas. A draft outline plan of the overall development is included as Appendix 6.
Critically, the proposed development will contribute significant resources to supporting the construction of offshore wind farms and in facilitating the development of alternative energy solutions such as Green Hydrogen production, storage and distribution.
Connections to the hinterland are available via the nearby M1 motorway and the Dublin to Belfast main rail line running through the site.
It is clear from engagement with relevant markets that there is a critical need for additional competitive opportunities and resilience in the port service market. There is also a time-sensitive requirement for specialist port infrastructure in deep water to accommodate the transition of the Irish energy landscape to alternative supply. The site, close to the majority of the population and in a part of the country with a high demand for inward investment, was chosen with a great deal of care and sensitivity. The challenge is to deliver the project in a timeframe that matches policy and market goals.
The parties have engaged with the relevant local, regional and national authorities to advance the project and have submitted appropriate documentation to Government under the national Public Spending Code. The Minister for Transport has also supported an application for Connecting Europe Funding (“CEF”) by the parties to bring the project to a positive planning approval.






Appendix 6 is blank Johnnie

[DeV]

Bremore has a tender out for:

multi party framework agreement to provide financial and economic consultancy services for the development of a new port on the north of Bremore Head, in county Meath

[ancientmariner]

https://cora.ucc.ie/handle/10468/6293

Most sea ports are at sea level with access at all tide levels. In cases where there is 30/40 feet or more rise between LWS and HWS then ports are usually LOCKED in, like in the Bristol Channel. Ports in the future may have to be locked in. To get from the Shannon Estuary into the Shannon river at Killaloe, the lock has a 100 foot rise. If it wasn't there the Shannon would be seasonal with mudflats most of the year.

[DeV]

Reflecting on your observations then our island needs will have shifted their axis/routing elsewhere. New ports nearer the sea are the wishes of the industry. Unless we are going through an industrial renaissance, we will still have a growing import tonnage and it looks like the multinational based pharmas will continue to grow our exports. The bigger problem is the dark money making habits of developers, buying cheap and delivering exponentially dear, with forever inbuilt costs for customers. The UK was largely a land bridge to be replaced by direct Ro/Ro and other services to European gateways.

Absolutely we need more regional development

[Graylion]

https://cora.ucc.ie/handle/10468/6293

[DeV]

Not so - see the Continent. Our current rail system not being suitable for it is a different kettle of fish.

Which travel much further distances and have much better developed rail freight lines.

yes a daily train from say Dublin to Galway would take I think it is max 32 TEUs off the road but it will also mean more staging of containers and delays, for some business models that is fine for many it’s not. If it is sitting in a container it is costing money

[Graylion]

Rail is best suited to not JIT bulk freight

Not so - see the Continent. Our current rail system not being suitable for it is a different kettle of fish.

[DeV]

The emerging scramble for Ports and Transport is a clear lack of oversight and responsibility allowing private entities to pick all the better choices and exclude others including the STATE.

Rail is best suited to not JIT bulk freight

[ancientmariner]

If the option was made available

The emerging scramble for Ports and Transport is a clear lack of oversight and responsibility allowing private entities to pick all the better choices and exclude others including the STATE.