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  • Threat to undersea cables

    This article might be of interest to some of you here, given that a senior Irish Navy officer recently mentioned this specific threat.

    https://www.navylookout.com/the-thre...dersea-cables/

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/a...tml%3ftype=amp

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    Originally posted by pilatus View Post
    This article might be of interest to some of you here, given that a senior Irish Navy officer recently mentioned this specific threat.

    [url]https://www.navylookout.com/the-threat-to-worlds-communications-backbone-the-vulnerability-of-undersea-cables/[/url

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/a...tml%3ftype=amp
    A good article. Although it's saying about the Russian threat, a few other actors, North Korea being the main one that springs to mind, would be nowhere near as reliant on t'net. Distruction of cables, or even the threat of that, could be a real hammer for them to threaten or do.

    Also, some of the Islamic terrorist groups, it would be a relatively low-tech and low risk way of threatening and disrupting the world economy. All it realy needs is a fishing boat and graplning hooks,and a relative degree of coordination to take out several geographical locations at once.
    'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
    'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
    Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
    http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Flamingo View Post
      A good article. Although it's saying about the Russian threat, a few other actors, North Korea being the main one that springs to mind, would be nowhere near as reliant on t'net. Distruction of cables, or even the threat of that, could be a real hammer for them to threaten or do.

      Also, some of the Islamic terrorist groups, it would be a relatively low-tech and low risk way of threatening and disrupting the world economy. All it realy needs is a fishing boat and graplning hooks,and a relative degree of coordination to take out several geographical locations at once.
      While all of this is relevant, and we are in the midst of "Grey Warfare", and with the Brits brexited, we are an isolated EU nation with thousands of miles of ocean borders. We are following a singular role pathway based on peace time surface interdiction and dealing with fishery, and miscellaneous fiscal/smuggling threats. Most of our assets are shoehorned into one base and no provision for other port deployment except as paying visitors.
      We must also take into account that Elon Musk and associates are striving to take the Internet to the low orbiting satellites. there is at present about 2 Petabits of info using cables with 1 Petabit of that shifting to Satellite. In Grey warfare rogue countries AND large corporations or rich entities are stealing world power away from the Big Nations except Russia, China, Iran and others who are reaping harvests in third countries and unfortunately setting the agenda. Overall we need to be a seafaring Nation with a strong Airmaritime surveillance/interdiction capability OR join an organisation that can.

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      • #4
        The last threat of note to Irish undersea cables was the fisherman/gobshite who decided to take a short cut and severed the main power cable to the Aran Islands,costing a couple of million to repair, just a few years ago.

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        • #5
          https://www.businessinsider.com/russ...-report-2020-2

          Interesting, I have never heard of this report before but again it's not surprising.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by pilatus View Post
            https://www.businessinsider.com/russ...-report-2020-2

            Interesting, I have never heard of this report before but again it's not surprising.
            Could be tailored news. John Sipher is retired (with an apt name) from CIA but now is head of a company called Spycraft Entertainment. There is no doubt that such actions as outlined are in the Russian armory, as they have a submarine with an integrated manned launchable submarine , of over 1000 tonnes ,fitted with tool arms for picking things up or maybe cutting cables or just lisening. There is no access to Dublin Port except through a manned gate and it is NOT open to the general public.

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            • #7
              I see the RN are looking at having vessels with this role in mind, looking towards the likes of the Antarctic patrol ship, and the more recent NZ dive support ship as a concept.
              The surplus of suitable offshore support ships available for sale (and relatively inexpensive conversion to role) has also been hilighted.
              Are we going to let the RN look after our undersea cables too?
              One of the Submissions to CoDF will include this graphic.
              https://twitter.com/RobGilbey/status...17639503843333
              Last edited by na grohmiti; 22 March 2021, 09:26.
              German 1: Private Schnutz, I have bad news for you.
              German 2: Private? I am a general!
              German 1: That is the bad news.

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                German 1: Private Schnutz, I have bad news for you.
                German 2: Private? I am a general!
                German 1: That is the bad news.

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                • #9
                  Some more information on the RN plans.
                  Royal Navy to get new surveillance ship (ukdefencejournal.org.uk)
                  German 1: Private Schnutz, I have bad news for you.
                  German 2: Private? I am a general!
                  German 1: That is the bad news.

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                  • #10
                    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.rte.ie/amp/1205686/

                    Under-sea cable owners seek High Court injunctions

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                    • #11
                      New Royal Navy Surveillance Ship to protect the UK’s critical underwater infrastructure

                      https://www.gov.uk/government/news/n...infrastructure

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Flamingo View Post

                        A good article. Although it's saying about the Russian threat, a few other actors, North Korea being the main one that springs to mind, would be nowhere near as reliant on t'net. Distruction of cables, or even the threat of that, could be a real hammer for them to threaten or do.

                        Also, some of the Islamic terrorist groups, it would be a relatively low-tech and low risk way of threatening and disrupting the world economy. All it realy needs is a fishing boat and graplning hooks,and a relative degree of coordination to take out several geographical locations at once.
                        OR a country that is pi..ed-off with us for criticising them for shooting ducks in a bucket in the Middle East. We being also a member of the UN Security Council that country could be supporting an attack on our busiest Government Agency that is trying to save lives. Ask their ambassador is it them??

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