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  • #16
    It was in the Sunday Tribune 05 august
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

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    • #17
      Lets get t5o Harare while we're down there, then we can change the name back to its proper name, Salisbury.

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      • #18
        Todays Sindo cast aspitions on weather the army could or want to go to Darfur as no other europaen nation, the Scandanavians Brits or Yanks want to go to Darfur. This leads to the question it seems that we would be the token whites and would we have the logistics and protection to operate albeit on our own amongst other african or Aisan trrops.

        They seem to have sources with the DF that are not to keen in deploying there although they do want another substantial UN mission.

        Any thoughts?
        Last edited by hptmurphy; 13 August 2007, 09:05.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by hptmurphy View Post
          Todays Sindo cast apitions on weather the army could or want to go to Darfur as no other europaen nation, the Scandanavians Brits or yanks want to go to darfur. This leads to the wquestion it seems that we would be the token whites and would we have the logistics and protection to operate albeit on our own amongts other african or Aisan trrops.

          They seem to have sources with the DF that are not to keen in deploying there although they do want another substantial UN mission.

          Any thoughts?
          According to this BBC report the UN Darfur force will be all African.
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          • #20
            See post 10, the media are guessing. There is a will at EU to be involved - probably to justifiy battlegroups.

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            • #21
              peacekeeping in Darfur

              According to a report in today's Irish Times,

              ".....The AU (African Union) will continue to supply all the infantry for the 20,000-strong force but other nations will provide transport aircraft, helicopters and logistics, while command will be under joint UN/AU leadership..."

              We don't have any transport aircraft, the Air Corps aren't allowed deploy abroad (even if they wanted to), so that leaves logistics...

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              • #22
                Chad rather than Darfur?

                Seems likely an EU force will go to eastern Chad, where it borders the Darfur region of Sudan, to protect the refugee camps there and prevent raids across the border by the Janjaweed militia.



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                • #23


                  Soon whitey will be the scapegoat forr all that is wrong in africa..


                  Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                  • #24
                    Any major deployment to Darfur has great potential to be a complete disaster. The UN has allowed itself to be used by the Sudan Govt to play its Pan African Card. Its A LOAD OF CRAP . The UN is supposed to be one UN regardles of colour creed etc. THe current AU force there most of their time kipping in their compounds , a daily excursion mobile patrols and thats it. Night time when the gooks come into the IDP camps they are not around.. a brigade of good european troops would have made a much bigger impact. Plenty of officers with shiny uniforms and loads of saluting and such Bull.. When they first went there were US "contarctors" handling their logs, command and sigs etc. The AU is not even taken seriosuly by its own members about 50% only pay their dues.
                    Ireland has to be careful and very clear about what it can do or not do to defend itself and that is No 1 priority in such an operation.. And before hedge hogs starts shooting off, I have been there twice for a few weeks only in the last few years.

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                    • #25
                      If they are to deploy to the region, a deployment to Chad along with a few of our European collegues esp from a logs point of view. Darfur has to potential to be a disaster
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                      • #26
                        From RTE

                        Minister for Defence has announced the possible deployment of up to Irish Defence Force personnel to the Central African Republic and Chad.
                        There may be only one time in your life when your country will call upon you and you will be the only one who can do the nasty job that has to be done -- do it or forever after there will be the taste of ashes in your mouth.

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                        • #27
                          I see Dermot Ahern wants some kind of assurances out of the Sudanese and the UN. Surely the only assurances are that the Sudanese don't give a toss about him and the UN have insufficient balls to deliver a sufficiently robust ROE?

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                          • #28
                            general sir mike jackson just on late late show (i admit i am getting old and boring!) wishing the best to gen nash and the irish contigent for whenever we deploy to wherever we end up.

                            also paid his respects to all the members of irish security forces that lost their lives during the troubles. a genuine, sincere touch i thought.
                            Last edited by X-RayOne; 6 October 2007, 17:06.
                            An army is power. Its entire purpose is to coerce others. This power can not be used carelessly or recklessly. This power can do great harm. We have seen more suffering than any man should ever see, and if there is going to be an end to it, it must be an end that justifies the cost. Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by X-RayOne View Post
                              general sir mike jackson just on late late show (i admit i am getting old and boring!) wishing the best to gen nash and the irish contigent for whenever they deploy to wherever we end up.

                              also paid his respects to all the members of irish security forces that lost their lives during the troubles. a genuine, sincere touch i thought.


                              Me too...................

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by EI-EIO View Post
                                I see Dermot Ahern wants some kind of assurances out of the Sudanese and the UN. Surely the only assurances are that the Sudanese don't give a toss about him and the UN have insufficient balls to deliver a sufficiently robust ROE?
                                instead of seeking assurances

                                he should give Sudan an assurance

                                that if there pet murders harm an Irish Person

                                we will kick 7 collours of shite out of them
                                Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
                                Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
                                The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
                                The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
                                The best lack all conviction, while the worst
                                Are full of passionate intensity.

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