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  • Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
    Clip summary:

    British soldiers: It's not A-Stan, but it'll have to do
    Irish Officer: The British are great
    French Officer: The British are great.
    Female "Reporter": It's not A-Stan, but it'll have to do, and everyone else thinks we are great.

    If that isn't patronising I don't know what is.
    would you rather British media didn't give ONH in Mali any airtime?

    or do you just dislike the positive comments made by Irish and French officers about their British colleagues?

    it's a shame such teamwork, respect and appreciation which these soldiers from different nations have developed is being criticised.

    i am happy to see input from soldiers of all nations in these missions, and it clear the British and Irish in particular are working well together in Mali and long may it continue here (renewed mandate in 2014 hopefully), and elsewhere (CAR for example).
    RGJ

    ...Once a Rifleman - Always a Rifleman... Celer et Audax

    The Rifles

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    • Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
      Clip summary:

      British soldiers: It's not A-Stan, but it'll have to do
      Irish Officer: The British are great
      French Officer: The British are great.
      Female "Reporter": It's not A-Stan, but it'll have to do, and everyone else thinks we are great.

      If that isn't patronising I don't know what is.
      Add to the summary from what the Irish Lt has to say on what we bring to the party, "Sure we are great crack"

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      • I see Goldie's point. I too sensed an undercurrent of "Awck well, sure it'll do" and that somehow babysitting some Malian soldiers was somehow beneath the British Army. My criticism would be more of the reporting style of BFBS in this situation rather than the British Army itself. But then again they are the British forces broadcasting service so there will always be a British slant to their reporting.
        Theirs not to make reply,
        Theirs not to reason why,
        Theirs but to do and die:
        Into the valley of Death
        Rode the six hundred.

        The Charge of the Light Brigade

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        • Originally posted by mugs View Post
          I see Goldie's point. I too sensed an undercurrent of "Awck well, sure it'll do" and that somehow babysitting some Malian soldiers was somehow beneath the British Army. My criticism would be more of the reporting style of BFBS in this situation rather than the British Army itself. But then again they are the British forces broadcasting service so there will always be a British slant to their reporting.
          Could be just macho talk for other Regiments consumption.
          What they may really be thinking is-
          "Thank F%$k this not Afghanistan landed on me feet ear by gum. should be all over by the time we get back"

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          • I think all the people bleating on about the BFBS coverage of the Irish lads serving as part of a BRITISH unit should STFU!!
            Our own press office and coverage of OUR OWN troops has been virtually non existent!All the video or news footage of the Irish in Mali has come from U.K sources.Sources that didn't have to interview our lads OR picture them.But they did.A bit of gratitude would be better then the constant whingeing and bitching and the massive chips on some peoples shoulders.So what if the Irish officer kissed a little B.A arse.Its called being diplomatic!!You don't slag off the people you work with and under on their own TV station FFS especially when you are still working with them!!
            "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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            • [Taken here from the Cambrian Patrol thread to keep that on topic]

              Originally posted by SwiftandSure View Post
              Once the big deployments are done and everyone is home, can you see the Reserve taking as big of a role in these small training deployments? I would have thought these will be the preserve of the Regs? Unless it needs specialist input like Field Hospital staff, Comms specialists etc?
              apparently yes - Future Force 2020's vision sees Reserve Forces taking a greater part in such overseas deployments as highlighted here:

              Originally posted by Future Force 2020 White Paper
              The range of tasks Reserve Forces will be required to undertake in future are summarised in the table below.

              • Short term operations such as the evacuation of UK citizens from Lebanon in 2006 and the 2011 Libya operation.
              • Longer term stabilisation operations such as in the Balkans, UN missions, Iraq and Afghanistan.
              • Standing commitments abroad such as the Cyprus garrison and the defence of the Falkland Islands.
              • Deployments overseas aimed at Defence engagement, conflict prevention, security sector reform and capability building in priority countries, such as the British Peace Support mission in East Africa and the EU operation in Mali.
              RGJ

              ...Once a Rifleman - Always a Rifleman... Celer et Audax

              The Rifles

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              • [QUOTE=apod;405368]I think all the people bleating on about the BFBS coverage of the Irish lads serving as part of a BRITISH unit should STFU!!
                I tend to agree wth APOD on this one but would not ask anyone to STFU as he puts it. Its a great opportunity for the DF to gain experience and work work with other armies and they work under an EU "neutral " flag, so to speak. The BA / French with their op and training experience are second to none and it can only be a win win for the Irish . Just stay clear of their politics.
                . Its also a great opp to lead African troops in the field and god only knows what opportunities it may open up for further work in places like CAR, DRC . etc. m

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                • UN peacekeepers die in Mali blast

                  http://www.independent.ie/world-news...-29838428.html

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                  • Five Injured as U.N. Vehicle in Mali Hits Landmine
                    by Naharnet Newsdesk 2 hours ago.
                    Five members of the U.N. mission in Mali were injured Monday when their vehicle ran over a landmine planted in the northeastern rebel bastion of Kidal, the stabilization mission said.
                    "This (Monday) morning a MINUSMA (U.N. stabilization mission in Mali) vehicle ran over a mine" 30 kilometers (20 miles) from Kidal, the statement sent via Twitter said.
                    "Five blue helmets were slightly injured," it added, giving no more details.

                    Read more

                    http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/1...-hits-landmine

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                    • British Riflemen from 1RIFLES and Irish Soldiers from a variety of units with Mali Army soldiers today before the England v Ireland 6 Nations Rugby:

                      RGJ

                      ...Once a Rifleman - Always a Rifleman... Celer et Audax

                      The Rifles

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                      • http://www.defence.ie/WebSite.nsf/Re...6?OpenDocument

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                        • A Poc Fada competition in Mali.
                          Results:-
                          1st: France
                          2nd: Mali
                          3rd: Sweden

                          Attached Files

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                          • EUTM mandate has been extended to May 2016

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                            • pics of some Riflemen from 1RIFLES training soldiers in Mali recently:







                              RGJ

                              ...Once a Rifleman - Always a Rifleman... Celer et Audax

                              The Rifles

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                              • Nice pics RGJ. Any news on the training group after the security fiasco and killings at the weekend. Not too good with Mali geography and some of the reports are lacking in detailed information.
                                Don't tell them Pike

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