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  • #31
    Originally posted by danno View Post
    Very much so, the DF abroad seem to have cultivated a soft image (as opposed to an aggressive one) that is appropriate to constabularly /humanitarian/peace ops . Mind you the 'heads who confronted the DF relieving the isolated P'Pinos on the Golan in 2014 acquired a different perception of the DF.
    Is there a full account of that anywhere in the public domain? The news stories at the time were (understandably) a bit scarce on detail.
    'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
    'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
    Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
    http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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    • #32
      Something that seems to be getting little coverage is the cut in the UN Peacekeeping budget.
      http://m.france24.com/en/20170701-un...ur-ivory-coast
      Although some of the reasons why the US wants to cut the budget could be valid. That is that poorer countries only send troops to get the money this is not the way to get reform. It is well known the US opposition to UN missions and the current Administration being even more so. But I find the lack of open debate discussing.
      Yes the UN is not perfect and needs reform, but this seems a lot like the Obamacare debate. Lets get rid of something so the rich can save money. To put it in perspective the cuts would not fund a replacement destroyer for the one damaged last week. It is less than 0.1% of the total US defence budget.
      Now the next question will be what happens to our Peacekeeping troops as each deployment come up for renewal at the UN? Will the US push to end UNIFIL? Will China step up and replace the US as the prime supporter of UN Blue Helmets?

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      • #33
        On the counter arguement, some of the wasteful spending on missions is jaw dropping

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        • #34
          Originally posted by TangoSierra View Post
          On the counter arguement, some of the wasteful spending on missions is jaw dropping
          Totally agree, but each time there is a mission the call goes out for troops and who is never first in the line with offers (apart from the Korean war), the US. They have a military which spend more than the rest of the world together but it is missing. They need to engage and help reform rather than just cutting for domestic Agenda.

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          • #35
            UNOCI has just closed due to mission success.
            MINUSTAH is closing later this year to be replaced by a smaller justice support mission.
            UNMIL is much reduced.

            The UN missions should be creating the space to allow long term solutions to be created and not be prolonged ops (15+ year ops).

            There are talks about UNFICYP at the minute, with the UK talking about handing over SBA territory.

            UNIFIL and UNDOF you need to factor in Syria, AQ/ISIS and regional stability. Similar can be said for MINUSCA and MINUSMA, also MONUSCO.

            MINURSO and UNMOGIP should have political solutions at this stage.

            Not sure what the situation is in various ops in the countries/regions in and around South Sudan.
            Last edited by DeV; 2 July 2017, 13:54.

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            • #36
              If an American is not in charge of the mission I don't think it would be acceptable in domestic politics.
              Don't see too many Chinese or Russian heads of missions either

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              • #37
                Originally posted by TangoSierra View Post
                If an American is not in charge of the mission I don't think it would be acceptable in domestic politics.
                Don't see too many Chinese or Russian heads of missions either
                It'll be a while before the first. Thank your lucky stars if the second doesn't materialise.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by TangoSierra View Post
                  If an American is not in charge of the mission I don't think it would be acceptable in domestic politics.
                  Don't see too many Chinese or Russian heads of missions either
                  I think it is by design possibly to do with independence

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                  • #39
                    Interesting overview here
                    http://www.providingforpeacekeeping....ofile-ireland/

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by DeV View Post
                      An.interesting read (and quite well written!)
                      'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
                      'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
                      Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
                      He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
                      http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Flamingo View Post
                        An.interesting read (and quite well written!)
                        Also interesting to see other countries profiles

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                        • #42
                          Well to answer the question of the thread


                          If seems to be as we have just won a seat on the UNSC for the next 2 years off the back of it (Norway got the other seat, Canada didn’t)

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                          • #43
                            Lots of backlash in Canada at their poor showing given what they spent to encourage certain nations to vote for them.
                            Now, our government who used the Defence Forces in their campaign, hammering home the 52 years of unbroken UN service, now need to put their money where their mouth was and support the Defence Forces.
                            For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
                              Lots of backlash in Canada at their poor showing given what they spent to encourage certain nations to vote for them.
                              Now, our government who used the Defence Forces in their campaign, hammering home the 52 years of unbroken UN service, now need to put their money where their mouth was and support the Defence Forces.
                              Given they reportedly spent twice as much as us and are a G7 nation you can see why, as to the rest of your post, totally agree.

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                              • #45
                                Canada using a Celine Dione concert to influence votes was not the smartest move , obviously Canada thought we all regard her as highly as they do .
                                Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .

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