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  • #31
    How often was that asshat Khalid kelly on our airwaves before he finally found Allah the hard way?
    For now, everything hangs on the CoDF report, still possibly 2 weeks from the Ministers desk.

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    • #32
      Her Jihadist training never allowed for the sights and sounds of the great Christian festival , as the aroma of freshly baked sausage rolls made its way into her cell to break her Jihaddi will power .
      Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .

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      • #33
        We have had at least 2 pages and 30 odd comments on Smiths bail applications, in the last 3 years there has been around 43 Sinn Fein supporters arrested for membership of terrorist organisation, most of those got bail.

        Yet there is practically no mention of it on here.

        I thought we were against all terrorism.

        My prediction, Smith will be either acquitted or found not guilty of the charges, unless one of you upstanding warriors have her isis membership card or a smoking gun.
        Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
        Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
        The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
        The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
        The best lack all conviction, while the worst
        Are full of passionate intensity.

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        • #34
          Does the ISIS membership card look anything like the IRA membership card .
          Last edited by Laners; 21 December 2019, 10:55.
          Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Laners View Post
            Does the ISIS membership card look anything like the IRA membership card .
            I’d reckon so, sure aren’t they both sides of the same coin, ira burned people alive, raped, sold drugs , robbed and control Sinn Fein, isis pretty much does the same in a warmer climate.
            Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
            Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
            The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
            The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
            The best lack all conviction, while the worst
            Are full of passionate intensity.

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            • #36
              Ah, but does ISIS have a political wing whose leader tweets cuddly photos of his teddy bear?
              For now, everything hangs on the CoDF report, still possibly 2 weeks from the Ministers desk.

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              • #37
                I think there are a few issues here, Hedgie.

                1. If the outrage bus was to set out of the garage every time a Shinner was caught, it would never be in the garage. The IRA in all it’s guises are know scumbags (and indeed the same argument might be put forward for the organised crime and burglary gangs that get bail).

                2. I don’t know how many of the Irish Freedom Fighters / criminals are ex-members if the PDF and (allegedly) used that training to train others.

                3. Although the IRA / Sinn Fein / UVF /UDA whoever are murdering scumbags, ISIS did take it to a new level, both in terms of quantity and quality (for want of a better description). That does need acknowledgment.

                She might get off with it due to an inability for the Irish legal system to present a case because of logistical problems. The higher burden of proof of “beyond reasonable doubt” is a high bar. “The balance of probabilities” would be much different.

                Whether the publicity and discussion she has engendered is warranted or not is open to discussion. Personally, I think it is.
                'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
                'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
                Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
                He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
                http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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                • #38
                  The recent case law from the SCC is worrying with regard to evidence that was only previously disclosed to the judge now having to be disclosed to the defence

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                  • #39
                    Am I right in thinking that IRA membership could be “proved” if a Garda Superintendent swore that he had reasonable grounds to believe someone was an IRA member?
                    'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
                    'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
                    Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
                    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
                    http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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                    • #40
                      Not sure whether super or chief super but yes. It was accepted in law that their evidence was based on their access to a range of confidential sources or observations.
                      This and the wall of silence the provos gave in interview was enough legally for the judge to draw inference.
                      For now, everything hangs on the CoDF report, still possibly 2 weeks from the Ministers desk.

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                      • #41
                        Correct (a Chief Super)

                        The evidence was provided to the judges and they then judged it on its merits (defence didn’t get to see it)

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                        • #42
                          Is it still in force? And could it be used in this case, or was it strictly for home-grown nobs?
                          'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
                          'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
                          Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
                          He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
                          http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Flamingo View Post
                            Is it still in force? And could it be used in this case, or was it strictly for home-grown nobs?
                            It is and it is in this case

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                            • #44
                              Seems she is struggling to get the independent Bail surety and might end up staying in over Christmas.

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                              • #45
                                Probably difficult to find friends or family willing to provide any support to her, now that her child is in their care, away from her influence.
                                Not too many from the islamic community would be keen to throw in with her either.
                                For now, everything hangs on the CoDF report, still possibly 2 weeks from the Ministers desk.

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