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    What kind of things does the army do overseas? (Raids, patrolling, thing like the brits and Americans do in Iraq....etc) :tri:
    And what are your experience while carring out these duties, have you ever come under fire?
    Last edited by mugs; 23 April 2005, 20:01.
    Theirs not to make reply,
    Theirs not to reason why,
    Theirs but to do and die:
    Into the valley of Death
    Rode the six hundred.

    The Charge of the Light Brigade

  • #2
    strange question
    why do you want to know
    soldiers generally don’t talk about there experiences for what ever reason
    how ever
    do you want to know about Congo, cypress, Lebanon syni Ireland ?????

    the army does and has carried out operations on all these front and most of the early ones are not classified or else, they are de classified

    most of us who served during thee non war from 69 to the present may have done all sorts of thing
    even giving out clean cloths in gormanston to the refugees from the north

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    • #3
      strange question, why do you want to know?
      Just that I see footage of the Brits and Americans doing some of these things in Iraq. I also see the Brits patroling and carrying out check points where I live and just wonder if the Irish army did this overseas

      do you want to know about Congo, cypress, Lebanon syni Ireland ?????
      yes, and maybe something from Liberia. Have you ever come under fire from maybe local rebals both on patrol and at base?

      even giving out clean cloths in gormanston to the refugees from the north
      What do you mean by that?
      Theirs not to make reply,
      Theirs not to reason why,
      Theirs but to do and die:
      Into the valley of Death
      Rode the six hundred.

      The Charge of the Light Brigade

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      • #4
        Patrols, checkpoints, observation posts, riot control, etc

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DeV
          Patrols, checkpoints, observation posts, riot control, etc
          When were you overseas Dev?


          Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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          • #6
            Never (at least not with the DF), mugs asked what the army does overseas

            patrols are a broad term
            riot control was done in both Kosovo & Liberia
            checkpoints & observation posts whether in camp/outside (not done as often now as in the days of UNIFIL)

            also guarding/monitoring points, such as churches in kosovo

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            • #7
              But does the army do obsevation patrols, Ya know hiding out and watching a town or farm house (thats if they train in those kind of things), and has the army ever been fired at while patroling or has a base ever been attacked with small arms or RPG's that kind of thing?

              Also do you think the DF should train overseas. Like winter training in Sweden or Norway
              or Jungle training in say in Australia? Personnal I think it would be a good think.

              I also remember a debat about forming a parachute or marine Battalion, I think to hell with that, just get the navy to get a ship that could launch landing craft or rapid raiders and train every battalion to use them at least then the army would have seabourne capabilities with a few choppers.
              Last edited by mugs; 24 April 2005, 16:24.
              Theirs not to make reply,
              Theirs not to reason why,
              Theirs but to do and die:
              Into the valley of Death
              Rode the six hundred.

              The Charge of the Light Brigade

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mugs
                and has the army ever been fired at while patroling or has a base ever been attacked with small arms or RPG's that kind of thing?
                Frequently in the past, mainly in the Congo and Lebanon (Jadotville in the Congo, for example). Another example would be the Qana incident of 18 April 1996 in Lebanon, when Israeli artillery shelled a UN (Fijian) base, killing over 100 civilians.

                To give you an idea of situation, up to 1989, 32 Irish soldier had been killed in action on overseas service. There have been more since but I can't find the information.

                Congo (ONUC)
                Between 1960 and 1961, 16 Irish troops were killed in action.

                Lebanon (UNIFIL)
                Between 1980 and 1987, 10 Irish troops were killed in action. One Irish soldier has been missing since 1981.

                Middle East (UNTSO)
                Between 1967 and 1989, 6 Irish troops were killed in action.

                Source: A History of the Irish Army, JP Duggan, 1991

                May they rest in peace.

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                • #9
                  One Irish soldier has been missing since 1981.
                  What happened there? I did read about someone going missing in the congo.
                  Last edited by mugs; 24 April 2005, 17:07.
                  Theirs not to make reply,
                  Theirs not to reason why,
                  Theirs but to do and die:
                  Into the valley of Death
                  Rode the six hundred.

                  The Charge of the Light Brigade

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                  • #10
                    http://www.irishmilitaryonline.com/b...dex.php/t-2569

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                    • #11
                      I see from a report in todays papers that the PLO have offered to pinpoint his body if the Lebanese agree
                      it will be long, it will be hard, and there will be no withdrawl
                      Winston churchill

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mugs

                        What do you mean by that?
                        in '69 a number of refugees from NI were housed in gormanston camp, which was, up until then, in a "care and maintenence" state i believe. With their houses burnt down, they wouldnt have had many clothes with them, so the refugees were given out clothes. Apparently their children were a bit wild, and caused havoc in the mosney holiday centre next door...
                        Last edited by Steamy Window; 27 April 2005, 10:38.
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                        • #13
                          My mother and her brother and sisters used to help a relative of ours who was a priest saying mass for the refugees from the north in Kilworth camp
                          Factories dont burn themselves down, they need help from people like you and me.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by stameen soldier
                            in '69 a number of refugees from NI were housed in gormanston camp, which was, up until then, in a "care and maintenence" state i believe. With their houses burnt down, they wouldnt have had many clotehs with them, so the refugees were given out clothes. Apparently their children were a bit wild, and caused havoc in the mosney holiday centre next door...
                            I was there that year, and I can tell you some of the childrens mothers was a bit wild as well
                            it will be long, it will be hard, and there will be no withdrawl
                            Winston churchill

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                            • #15
                              In kosovo we did patrols(foot/mobile/armoured) covert op's,urban foot patrolling,checkpoints.
                              We also did cordon and search of people,vechicles,houses,open areas,factories and security sweeps and vip escort.
                              "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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