Sudan

[EUFighter]

Non-ETAC nations can be facilitated by ETAC
https://eatc-mil.com/uploads/page_co...%20article.pdf

If it is available why do we never use this? I am sure we could get France to be a sponsor.

[Sparky42]

If it is available why do we never use this? I am sure we could get France to be a sponsor.

I presume the same reason we barely give a nod to any of the other Europe wide options in the area of defence…

[EUFighter]

German has deployed 3x A400M aircraft to shuttle people from Sudan to Jordan where they board the new A321s for the flight to Berlin. They too are taking other EU citizens.

[na grohmiti]

Not very reliable as it's completely incorrect. Advance party of DFA/DF flew out commercial. Main body flew via Air Corps Aircraft to France. Crossloaded and deploying with French Aircraft to DJibouti. Total uniformed waffle also on Newstalk this morning about the team being unarmed "because they were flying commercial".

Ah. Good. It seems people confused the ARW team with the DFA team. I read later on, the clarification as you stated.

As for newstalk... well...

[DeV]

I presume the same reason we barely give a nod to any of the other Europe wide options in the area of defence…

didn’t we recently miss out on some EU funding for thing as Eamon Ryan’s Department didn’t apply (can’t remember what it was for)?

if it isn’t CAP, H2020, structural funds, social fund or Peace related we aren’t interested

but yet we are paying for it

[DeV]

While it does not have to be a blank cheque a set of rules/guidelines can be worked out and agreed beforehand. While I am sure that the bureaucrats will need several hundred of pages to define such a guideline in principle it would be:

§1 Each EUBG will consist of a company sized unit to provide rapid (with 48hrs) security for humanitarian evacuation missions.
§2 Each EUBG will have direct access to sufficient airlift capacity to enable the transport of the security unit plus its equipment and for the extraction of civilians from the deployment area.
§3 The maximum length of a mission is to be 7 days from the time the first elements of the security force are deployed.
§4 The High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy is authorised to request a mission to be launched. Any mission must be agreed by the Contributing States within 24 hours of the request.
§5 The deployment is for the evacuation of EU citizen from a country or area in which it is considered that those citizen would be in mortal danger should they remain.

I know it would take the bureaucrats many years to come up with something that works but they should still try. For the EU it would be something that could be held up as a benefit of being a member.

No one size fits all that’s another issue, big difference between assets required for Sudan compared to Afghanistan.

Realistically for a Coy sized force at that readiness it is unlikely to be multinational - therefore 1 country (with a small number of languages) taking all the risk

there is also no country in the EU that would have the aviation assets required