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  • HMS Daring Channel 4 Monday 7pm

    Heads up on this one on Channel 4

    Mon 31 May, 7.30pm to 9pm

    Channel 4 gains special access to the construction, launch and testing of the billion-pound HMS Daring, the Royal Navy's revolutionary new ship with cutting-edge technology, and the first new destroyer built in Britain since 1985.

    HMS Daring is the Royal Navy's most costly and complex warship to date.
    With old and outmoded ships standing guard over our shores, the navy is building defence for the 21st century: a revolutionary new ship with cutting-edge technology that has never been to sea. Costing £1 billion, Daring is the first new destroyer built in Britain since 1985 and is to be followed by five more.
    Irrespective of whether this fleet of Type 45 destroyers is a hangover from a dated Cold War mentality or is more relevant than anyone dare contemplate, these impressive warships represent a quantum leap forward in naval technology.
    Channel 4 is given special access to HMS Daring, filming the entire process from construction in 2004 through to testing and using the new weapons systems at sea. The shipbuilders construct a warship the modern way, with new skills alongside traditional jobs, in three different locations around the country.
    Interviews with naval experts and officers, engineers, ship workers and the captains convey a real sense of the scale of the build and significance of Daring for the navy.
    Its stealth shape is dominated by its high-tech radar, mounted 36 metres above the sea to act as the eyes and ears of a guided missile system. The ship also boasts modern facilities for crew, such as email access, iPod docks and comfortable living quarters, including for mixed genders.
    This programme captures Daring's dramatic launch: a Royal occasion for the people of Glasgow, to echo the historic launch days of old on the Clyde.
    The film also illustrates how the revolutionary British-built radar operates, and follows as Daring's crew of men and women test their new ship to the limit and the captain leads his crew into action stations in a war game.

  • #2
    before you jump on the band wagon saying it's not ready or its weapons don't work - it is on schedule and wasn't meant to have it's weapons operational when it passed it's sea trials.

    it's a great warship from what i've heard - because i know very little about warships!

    should be a good program though.
    RGJ

    ...Once a Rifleman - Always a Rifleman... Celer et Audax

    The Rifles

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    • #3
      Originally posted by RoyalGreenJacket View Post
      before you jump on the band wagon saying it's not ready or its weapons don't work - it is on schedule and wasn't meant to have it's weapons operational when it passed it's sea trials.

      it's a great warship from what i've heard - because i know very little about warships!

      should be a good program though.
      After all it is the Royal Navy and British to boot. Long live the Empire, Hooray

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      • #4
        at least there building not like there neighbour who cant afford to

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        • #5
          Originally posted by RoyalGreenJacket View Post
          before you jump on the band wagon saying it's not ready or its weapons don't work - it is on schedule and wasn't meant to have it's weapons operational when it passed it's sea trials.

          it's a great warship from what i've heard - because i know very little about warships!

          should be a good program though.
          Its biggest problem is the MoD cancelled most of them. the RN need twice as many but the MoD are more interested in selling older warships instead of replacing new ones.

          Zone 1, at the rate the RN are going, they'll have the same amount of ships as us in a few years.


          Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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          • #6
            Cheers for the heads up Goldie.

            HMS Diamond is currently going through her sea trials off the Isle of Arran.

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            • #7
              It wasnt me!


              Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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              • #8
                Hi there,
                Am I missing something here? Why wouldn't it have it's weapons ready for sea trials?
                regards
                GttC

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
                  It wasnt me!
                  Opps! Sorry Goldie, & cheers Brian!

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                  • #10
                    The new missile system built into it is not quite fully operational yet.

                    You know the way the Air Corpse Dauphins were around for years before they found their way onto Eithne's deck? Same idea. Sea trials are about ship manouverability, engines and major systems. Weapon systems are quite low on the list of priorities.
                    Not much point having fully operational guns and missiles if the ships engines won't go into reverse.


                    Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                    • #11
                      thanks for tip off - she was in dublin 2 months ago beautiful ship will be well worth watching

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                      • #12
                        Except the Daring class are purpose built anti-aircraft ships (who's primary weapon system isn't ready yet - but the RN are decommissioning the vessels they are replacing).

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                        • #13
                          So you could have the situation where the ship is fit for duty as a seaworthy ship but is not capable of fighting off it's potential enemies? Kind of pointless, that. Ready-but-not-ready.Clever, that.
                          regards
                          GttC

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
                            So you could have the situation where the ship is fit for duty as a seaworthy ship but is not capable of fighting off it's potential enemies? Kind of pointless, that. Ready-but-not-ready.Clever, that.
                            regards
                            GttC
                            Daring is not in full service yet - as Goldie rightly pointed out.

                            She is at sea but she is not due to be fully operational for a while yet.

                            Daring's weapon systems will be ready before we lose that capability from other ships.

                            Don't be surprised to see her anchored in the Thames during the 2012 Olympics.
                            RGJ

                            ...Once a Rifleman - Always a Rifleman... Celer et Audax

                            The Rifles

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DeV View Post
                              Except the Daring class are purpose built anti-aircraft ships (who's primary weapon system isn't ready yet - but the RN are decommissioning the vessels they are replacing).
                              Not necessarily.

                              They are destroyers, which by definition provide an element of anti aircraft screen for a carrier battle group, however the carriers she is designed to protect are either
                              (a) not built yet or
                              (b) Not operating fixed wing aircraft with air to air missiles, meaning the outer AA layer is also missing.

                              She would however be able to complete other naval tasks, similar to those carried out currently by ships she is destined to replace. These naval tasks do not require anti Aircraft missiles as the current enemy does not posess any aircraft.

                              In any event, her CIWS and Main armament can defend her adequately from the percieved threat.


                              Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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