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  • Whiteathame
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    US soldiers receive instruction in "media interviews, social media and propriety, operational security, etc," in basic and pre-commission training and at several points in their professional development. Abu Ghairab helped drive the train. (I work Public Affairs training and education issues for the US Army.)

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  • Victor
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    Originally posted by faughanballagh View Post
    Haven't heard of too many instances where soldiers put up pictures of themselves with detainees on social networking sites. Could be wrong though.
    Sorry, I was referring to prisoners being shown off to print / TV media

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_p50sfRYQln...+detainee.jpeg
    http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/04/02/im..._prisoner.html
    http://blogs.amnesty.org.uk/blogs_entry.asp?eid=2343
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1509699/

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  • hedgehog
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    Originally posted by Pod View Post
    so perhaps she wasn't such a`numpty?
    Not necessarily

    this will impact on her ability to obtain any state job or even if she will now be allowed

    go to a state run university in Israel.

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  • Pod
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    Originally posted by Connaught Stranger View Post
    She is officially dismissed from the Reserve for her actions.

    Connaught Stranger
    so perhaps she wasn't such a`numpty?

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  • Connaught Stranger
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    Originally posted by DeV View Post
    What do the mean former Israeli soldier?

    Once she is finished her regular service (conscription) she is still a member of the reserve (and can be called up if required).
    She is officially dismissed from the Reserve for her actions.

    Connaught Stranger

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  • DeV
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    What do the mean former Israeli soldier?

    Once she is finished her regular service (conscription) she is still a member of the reserve (and can be called up if required).

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  • hedgehog
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    Originally posted by faughanballagh View Post
    I agree
    By agreeing with me - you take all the fun away

    We should remember we had our own Cecil Bidet Mills

    with the faux mowing down a village routine

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  • faughanballagh
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    Originally posted by hedgehog View Post
    I see your point

    but if facebook had been there - you canbet Lyndie would have put the pics up- likewise Calley would have pictures of himself during his moment of fame and
    if FB was around for WW2 you can bet some lad called Heinrich who was a guard at Auswich would have likewise put his pics up with his charges.

    Never underestimate the capacity of some clowns to be total idiots-
    I agree

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  • GoneToTheCanner
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    Pointing a rifle at prisoners? Grinning captors? These sensitive types shouldn't read any WW II history books, then, the lambs. Plenty of pics of future VW/GM/Nissan/MG assemblers being rude to prisoners.....
    regards
    GttC

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  • hedgehog
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    From todays Irish Times

    The last couple of lines is something that Soldiers everywhere should keep as their mottoe;

    Army bases have posters reading “Not everyone is your friend on Facebook”.
    The Irish Times - Thursday, August 19, 2010More photos of Israeli soldiers with detainees posted to highlight issue
    A photograph of former Israeli soldier Eden Abergil posing in front of Palestinian detainees which was posted on Facebook.In this section »
    67 missing as Chinese town cut off by landslideFloods 'will not recede before end of month'MARK WEISS in Jerusalem

    AN ISRAELI group advocating an end to the occupation in the West Bank has posted new pictures on Facebook of soldiers posing with Palestinian detainees to prove how widespread the phenomenon is.

    Breaking the Silence, an organisation that collects testimonies from soldiers serving in the West Bank, uploaded new images including a group of soldiers posing next to a seriously wounded Palestinian lying on the floor and a picture of a soldier pointing a rifle at a prisoner stripped to his underwear.

    The organisation said it uploaded the images in an effort to counter claims by Israeli military officials on Tuesday, in which they condemned the pictures posted by a woman soldier, Eden Abergil, but said that her actions were those of a lone soldier and did not represent the norm.

    Ms Abergil, who completed her mandatory military service last year, posted pictures of herself smiling next to Palestinian detainees, prompting a wave of criticism in Israel and around the world. She was stripped of her military rank and will not be called up for reserve duty.

    Ms Abergil criticised the army’s decision, and claimed the affair had been blown out of proportion and that she had never intended to humiliate Palestinians. “I’m very disappointed with the Israel Defence Forces. The army is ungrateful. I risked my life, got injured; I was a model soldier, and now I wish I never served in this army.”

    Ms Abergil claimed that she has received death threats from all over the world since the story broke.

    Breaking the Silence called on the Israeli military spokesman not to underestimate the intelligence of the Israeli public and to admit that this is a widespread phenomenon.

    Another Israeli human rights group, Machsom Watch, which monitors the behaviour of soldiers at West Bank checkpoints, linked the latest set of photographs to the immorality of 43 years of military occupation.

    In an opinion piece on the Ynet news website, Edna Canetti from Machsom Watch wrote: “What makes this case special is its banality, triviality, and ordinariness. She was photographed with cuffed human beings for the hell of it. What caught the attention of the media worldwide was the fact that she felt no shame being photographed like that, and no shame sharing the photos.”

    Meanwhile, supporters of Ms Abergil set up a new Facebook page yesterday entitled: “We’re all with Eden Abergil.” They also posted fresh images of troops posing in front of Palestinian prisoners and sent messages of support, describing Ms Abergil as an honest soldier and the victim of a military witch-hunt.

    The fact that so many soldiers decide to upload photographs on Facebook and similar sites has created a headache for the Israeli military censor.

    Army bases have posters reading “Not everyone is your friend on Facebook”. In March an operation in the West Bank was called off at the last minute after it became known that one of the soldiers had revealed operational details on a social networking site.
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  • Connaught Stranger
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    I believe the I.D.F. has a strict policy / rule no military members may post on Face book.

    While these pictures in no way reflect what happened at A-G she should have been aware

    of the No Face book Rule and handing the opposition a propaganda opportunity.

    Connaught Stranger.

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  • hedgehog
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    Originally posted by faughanballagh View Post
    Abu Ghraib occurred before Facebook was even around. I was referring to social networking sites specifically as there's a big difference between pictures getting leaked and people knowingly sticking them on Facebook as if they're nothing.

    I see your point

    but if facebook had been there - you canbet Lyndie would have put the pics up- likewise Calley would have pictures of himself during his moment of fame and
    if FB was around for WW2 you can bet some lad called Heinrich who was a guard at Auswich would have likewise put his pics up with his charges.

    Never underestimate the capacity of some clowns to be total idiots-

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  • faughanballagh
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    Originally posted by hedgehog View Post
    Think your wrong there Faugh-

    If you dont beleive me ask the lovely Lyndie English and her mates

    and there were a couple of RGJ's comrades who found fame and Colchester for their 15 minuets
    Abu Ghraib occurred before Facebook was even around. I was referring to social networking sites specifically as there's a big difference between pictures getting leaked and people knowingly sticking them on Facebook as if they're nothing.

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  • hedgehog
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    Think your wrong there Faugh-

    If you dont beleive me ask the lovely Lyndie English and her mates

    and there were a couple of RGJ's comrades who found fame and Colchester for their 15 minuets

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  • faughanballagh
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    Originally posted by Victor View Post
    While, admittedly she is posing and rubbing it in, hasn't there been a lot of such footage over the last few years, especially from Iraq and Afghanistan?
    Haven't heard of too many instances where soldiers put up pictures of themselves with detainees on social networking sites. Could be wrong though.

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