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  • terrier
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    Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
    Hi there,
    Having seen a recent documentary on one of the Uk channels about "dancing boys", the practise of taking preteen boys, at gunpoint if need be and training them to be dancers (and killing potential escapees), I think a shade more aggression from the Norwegians and the rest is not unwelcome.That country is a corrupt, medieval shithole and it's simply not worth the deaths of Europeans to attempt to change it.
    regards
    GttC
    For more on the "culture " of the region read "Empires of the Indus " by Alice Albibia. Published in '08 so quite up-to-date.

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  • GoneToTheCanner
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  • GoneToTheCanner
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    Hi there,
    Having seen a recent documentary on one of the Uk channels about "dancing boys", the practise of taking preteen boys, at gunpoint if need be and training them to be dancers (and killing potential escapees), I think a shade more aggression from the Norwegians and the rest is not unwelcome.That country is a corrupt, medieval shithole and it's simply not worth the deaths of Europeans to attempt to change it.
    regards
    GttC

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  • Connaught Stranger
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  • Connaught Stranger
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    Originally posted by Come-quickly View Post
    The will to fight and win has been transmogrified into a warcrime by certain morally corrupt elements of society.

    Talk about uphill struggle.

    The Taliban aren't a national resistance movement, true they have some support, but the thankfully aborted Dutch Paedophile party had some support too.

    (Ref: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5038682.stm)
    Yeah Green Party Tree Huggers for one.

    Go For It!!!

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  • Come-quickly
    Commandant

  • Come-quickly
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    The will to fight and win has been transmogrified into a warcrime by certain morally corrupt elements of society.

    Talk about uphill struggle.

    The Taliban aren't a national resistance movement, true they have some support, but the thankfully aborted Dutch Paedophile party had some support too.

    (Ref: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5038682.stm)

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  • Truck Driver
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  • Truck Driver
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    If they stay within the LOACs and ROEs, then I see no reason why they shouldn't put the
    shit up the Taliban and put the boot on the other foot

    Like what the SAS are doing in targetting Taliban leaders

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  • Craghopper
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  • Craghopper
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    Go on the VIKINGS!!

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  • RoyalGreenJacket
    Commander in Chief

  • RoyalGreenJacket
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    Originally posted by dahamster View Post
    Also an excellent PX.
    i think the CANEX beats the Norgy PX any day.

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  • dahamster
    D.C.B.

  • dahamster
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    Originally posted by hedgehog View Post
    I totally agree with you Jungle;

    The Olafs have and always had a great espirt de corps

    and they are soliders thats the best force multiplier they could ever have.
    Also an excellent PX.

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  • hedgehog
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    Originally posted by Jungle View Post
    Definately sensationalist journalism; a bunch of bleeding hearts whining.

    As long as they operate in respect of the LoAC and Geneva conventions, they can approach combat the way they want.

    As professional Soldiers, it is no worse to enjoy our job than a firefighter enjoying his; it does not mean the firefighter enjoys seeing people's homes burn.

    Keep on killing bad dudes, Vikings !!
    I totally agree with you Jungle;

    The Olafs have and always had a great espirt de corps

    and they are soliders thats the best force multiplier they could ever have.

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  • ZULU
    Teuton Foot Soldier

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  • Jungle
    Private 3*

  • Jungle
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    Originally posted by HavocIRL View Post
    Pardon my ignorance, LoAC? Laws of Armed Conflict?
    Yes

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  • HavocIRL
    Viking

  • HavocIRL
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    Originally posted by Jungle View Post
    Definately sensationalist journalism; a bunch of bleeding hearts whining.

    As long as they operate in respect of the LoAC and Geneva conventions, they can approach combat the way they want.

    As professional Soldiers, it is no worse to enjoy our job than a firefighter enjoying his; it does not mean the firefighter enjoys seeing people's homes burn.

    Keep on killing bad dudes, Vikings !!
    Pardon my ignorance, LoAC? Laws of Armed Conflict?

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  • Jungle
    Private 3*

  • Jungle
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    Originally posted by HavocIRL View Post
    Spotted this on militaryphotos.net
    Anyone think there is anything more to this then sensationalist journalism? Or are these norwegians being too aggresive?
    Definately sensationalist journalism; a bunch of bleeding hearts whining.

    As long as they operate in respect of the LoAC and Geneva conventions, they can approach combat the way they want.

    As professional Soldiers, it is no worse to enjoy our job than a firefighter enjoying his; it does not mean the firefighter enjoys seeing people's homes burn.

    Keep on killing bad dudes, Vikings !!

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  • RoyalGreenJacket
    Commander in Chief

  • RoyalGreenJacket
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    it's Warfare not Welfare - Afghanistan is the perfect place for these Norse Vikings.

    it's kill or be killed, so lets hope they kill more of them and i commend them for remembering their fallen comrade in such an inspirational way.

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  • HavocIRL
    Viking

  • HavocIRL
    started a topic Norwegian Army too 'Aggressive' in Afghanistan

    Norwegian Army too 'Aggressive' in Afghanistan

    Spotted this on militaryphotos.net

    http://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/ar...artid=10036791

    Norwegian soldiers in Afghanistan unofficially use the "Punisher-skull" (from the comic/movie The Punisher) as an emblem. It’s got the text "Jokke, we will never forget!" as a tribute to the fellow soldier who got killed by a roadside bomb in January 2010. The senior Taliban leader and bomb making expert suspected of arranging the ambush that killed Claes Joachim Olsson, was himself killed this summer in an operation by Olssons unit.

    Soldiers of the "Mek 4" are spray painting the skull on buildings of suspected Taliban members as warnings to them. There are reports of several irregualar patrols, where the Norwegian soldiers seem to be seeking fire fights in order to kill enemies "without a clear mandate to do so" by the Army High Command (government/establishment).

    Soldiers have also expressed a great feeling of joy (better than sex) when involved in combat: "Seeing the "red mist" in your optics is an incredible feeling"
    (a soldier quoted by the newspaper VG http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/a...artid=10036779 )

    "You become so high on adrenaline before you draw the trigger. You want to shoot all the time when you have "verified weapon" and know that the enemy is a legitimate target. When you finally get to fire, you become blood-focused. We do anything to hit, to kill. Sometimes you're lucky, I hit a Taliban warrior in the neck from 2770 meter on february 2 this year - Man, there was cheering!"

    The company commander, major Kristian Simonsen, has expressed:
    I have utilized the troops with the intention of killing, and we have been successful. I don't reflect on having killed someone. They have chosen to enter the battlefield with the intention to kill us, that makes us equally guilty of the outcome. We are the two parties of a war".

    The Telemark Batallion 4th mechanized company's warcry is "Til Valhall!" (To Valhalla!). The warcry was shouted three times by the unit after a flaming speech by an officer in a closed ceremony in relation to Olssons death.

    The unit's field priest reacted when he heard about the incident and reported the soldiers "warmongering ethics and dangerous behaviour" to senior officers a while ago.

    The Norwegian gouvernment is in flames over this, claiming it to be "a vengeful, and dangerous path" that the soldiers should stop following.

    The subject has been a hot potato in the Norwegian press today. The defence minister (labour party) Grete Faremoe is strongly regretting the trend and calls for reactions. The leader of the moderate opposition, Erna Solberg, sees on the other hand no need to panic over the soldier's conduct.

    http://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/ar...artid=10036833


    Found this interesting as from where I stand, a goverment sends their army to War and yet while they are staying within the ROE their goverment sees fit to tell them how to do their job.


    Anyone think there is anything more to this then sensationalist journalism? Or are these norwegians being too aggresive?
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