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Could you expand on that for me ?Every man thinks meanly of himself for not having been a soldier - Samuel Johnson -
that went over my head too Knocker.Comment
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Apparantly he has been invited to the royal knees upOriginally posted by Goldie fish View PostAnyone need a spleen ?Comment
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Both Princess Brian and Lady Amy got invites.
Ye won't see Ronan O'Gara gettin one, you can be sure of that!
Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.Comment
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Would he place a bet on that?Originally posted by Goldie fish View PostThings fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.Comment
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Haven't heard anything in a while really.Originally posted by knocker View Post
Apart from lads having a heart attack at the thought of the preparations for a GoH if she comes over
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Ok 3 questionsOriginally posted by Goldie fish View Post
1) Whats with the anti BOD sentiment ?
2) Why wont Mr O Gara get an invite ?
3) When will golden rivet get angry again ?
Every man thinks meanly of himself for not having been a soldier - Samuel JohnsonComment
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Kevin Myers: Ronan O'Gara's a real lout for not giving the Queen some respect
By Kevin Myers
Friday, 15 May 2009
It's simple. Ronan O'Gara is a lout.
Either he kept his hands in his pockets when he met the Queen because he was unaware that no gentlemen ever keeps his hands in his pockets when he is meeting anyone — whether tinker, tart or toff — which means that he is a lout. Or that he went up to Belfast, freely and of his own accord, and very deliberately kept his hands in his pockets in her presence, in order to establish some political point. Which also means that he is a lout.
And those bigoted midgets who have applauded him for his bad manners have merely shown that they are louts also.
Some things are important. You do not insult the flag of another country, and you do not show disrespect for its head of state.
The English captain Martin Johnson showed such disrespect to the Irish President at Lansdowne Road by refusing to stand closer to the presidential red carpet, thereby making her walk over to him to shake his hand. Whether he did so accidentally or deliberately is irrelevant. He should have been publicly rebuked by the English Rugby Union and forced to apologise. He wasn't and he didn't. He is a lout also.
What he did was a serious breach of international protocol. But this should not have set a standard of Anglo-Hibernian bad manners to which Ronan O'Gara then uniquely adhered. (After all, no other Irish player felt the need to behave like him.)
Which means, if intentional, he went 300 miles to insult the sovereign of a friendly power. How heroic.
Which brings us to the tiresome issue, yet again, of Ireland and the British monarchy. Frankly, I am bored out of my skull with this pathetic, infantile obsession about Ireland not being British and therefore you don't invite the Queen (yes, that's deliberate) to the country.
Only nationalist dwarves accept that argument. If she can visit Germany, whose cities were laid waste in her lifetime, with tens of thousands of civilians being slaughtered in their homes by an air force whose commander in chief was her father, then she can surely visit Ireland.
This issue has all the hallmarks of a very stupid family row. We know that the vast majority of Irish people use the term 'the Queen' when describing the monarch of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Even Seamus Heaney wrote that in his family they never raised a glass to toast the Queen: yes, his capital letter.
The largest immigrant group in Ireland is British. For decades, the largest immigrant group in Britain was Irish. The laws of Ireland are based on English common law, and Irish barristers wear black in mourning for Queen Anne (died 1714). I could go on. So could you. This is because we all know the fundamental truths of this issue.
The culmination of next's season rugby championship will also see the 70th anniversary of the commissioning of Michael Floud Blaney, a Catholic and nationalist from Newry, and a graduate of UCD, into the Royal Engineers. He was rushed through a mine-defusing course, becoming one of the first of the new generation of bomb-disposals officers.
In September 1940, an unexploded German bomb in East London was paralysing traffic and preventing thousands of workers from doing vital war-duties.
Captain Blaney volunteered to defuse the bomb, and working alone — a method he pioneered — he succeeded.
A month later, a new type of bomb was found in London. Fitted with two very dangerous time fuses, its sole purpose was to kill bomb-disposals officers like him. However, it was causing major economic dislocation and had to be tackled.
Again he volunteered to defuse it alone. He was successful. Then, a fortnight before Christmas, just after his 30th birthday, Captain Blaney was called to deal with another bomb.
It had lain unexploded for several days, and was causing huge economic disruption. As usual he crawled unaccompanied into the crater, and while he worked on it the bomb exploded.
King George VI — the father of the woman in whose company Ronan O'Gara thought it appropriate to keep his hands in his pockets — awarded Captain Michael Floud Blaney a posthumous George Cross, the highest possible British decoration for a soldier not personally present in the face of the enemy.
As Ronan O'Gara travelled North last week to insult — either intentionally or otherwise — the Queen, he would have passed Newry Old Chapel Graveyard, where the remains of Captain Michael Floud Blaney GC are buried.
How many people now know of this gallant man in the town where he was born, and where he had once been in charge of the roads department?
Not many, I'd guess. Still, it's worth remembering that he used his hands to save life, not insult people.
The ultimate reward of the endeavours of so many Irishmen like him is also known by the name 'freedom', beside which two words such as 'Grand Slam' or 'Ronan O'Gara' do not properly belong.
This story was sourced from the Belfast Telegraph.Comment
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Did Ronan really snub the queen?
Press Association
Ronan O'Gara pictured meeting the Queen at Hillsborough Castle with his hands in his pockets.
By Claire Murphy
Friday May 08 2009
Rugby icon Ronan O'Gara has been criticised by fans for his perceived disrespect of the Queen of England.
The Irish team and past legends gathered at Hillsborough Castle for a civic reception held to honour their Grand Slam victory yesterday.
However, O'Gara failed to take his hands out of his pockets when greeting the sovereign.
O'Gara's casual stance has horrified rugby fans who feel he showed complete disrespect for the monarch.
Coach Declan Kidney, as well as 1948 Grand Slam legends Jack Kyle and Jimmy Nelson, accompanied the players, as they met the queen and the Duke of Edinburgh.
Team captain Brian O'Driscoll had his hand over his mouth when watching O'Gara's royal encounter. Discussion websites were immediately rushed with comments from appalled Munster fans. "The Irish team were being congratulated by the queen and O'Gara stood with his hands in his pockets," said one fan. "Just wanted too express my disgust in his behaviour."
"Very dis-respectfull allright (sic)," said another in a thread entitled Ronan O'Gara ... Very Disrespectful.
While a number of fans said that they didn't believe that the outhalf should have acted any differently, others were outraged. "I agree ... ROG is a thundering disgrace," said one blogger.
"As a grown-up country you show respect to other countries leaders regardless as to how they attained that position," said another.
Ronan is reported to have chatted to the Queen about her grandson William, who he met on two previous Lions tours and that he found him "a lovely young man".
Pat Geraghty, a Munster Rugby representative defended O'Gara today saying: "I think that he spoke very well. I believe Ronan always acts in a correct and respectful manner. He always represents his country very well".
After the meeting yesterday, players spoke about how pleased they had been to meet royalty.
"The queen was lovely. It was very special," said Rory Best. "You know, in terms of special guests, you don't get better than that."
Stephen Ferris's girlfriend Lauren Hood revealed that she was worried about how her curtsey had gone, while Stephen joked: "Well, I asked her for a pint of Harp and a packet of crisps," he laughed.
clairemurphy@herald.ie
Last edited by rod and serpent; 25 February 2011, 09:09.Comment
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1) BOD is not from muster...goldie is!Originally posted by knocker View PostOk 3 questions
1) Whats with the anti BOD sentiment ?
2) Why wont Mr O Gara get an invite ?
3) When will golden rivet get angry again ?
2) R&S posted one of the reasons.Everyone who's ever loved you was wrong.Comment
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There is nothing wrong with BOD (apart from being a North Cider)
he is an amazing sportsman, has always done his best for his Country- in reality if everyone
was like that, how much better of a Country would be.
ROG- is also an amazing Sportsman- he like us all has his faults and demons- he is a bit of a tit and perv
for fondling his nut sack when talking to the Queen- but each to their own. (he is also a culchie- but we cant blame him for that)Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.Comment
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Pres boys aren't culchies. No more than Clongowes boys are..
Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.Comment
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If you live beyond Rathcoole
then your ethnitic status is culchieous bigous (big culchie).Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.Comment
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Time to come clean cork man. Is the above a statment of fact or are you gloating that o gara wont be going ? For the conspiracy lovers among you is it a coincidence that the god of irish rugby Mr O Driscalls invite coincides with the heiniken cup semi final ?Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
Last edited by knocker; 25 February 2011, 23:34.Every man thinks meanly of himself for not having been a soldier - Samuel JohnsonComment
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Look once upon a time even Dublin didn't exist and irelnd was still here, so culche land existen long before dublinia did. The Pale me arse.Originally posted by hedgehog View Post
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