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MPA-C130Js AND P-8As!! For the love of god, stop rubbing it it will ya NZ!
And whose Government who is thinking of buying Fast Air now? Not us mate. Your turn will come soon enough Tango.
Besides this current government down here who did not order those aircraft but has SOLD off 22 LAV's to Chile and two 55m Patrol Vessels to Ireland and 40 perfectly serviceable 4x4 Mercedes Benz Unimogs that were useful to Army Reserve units out in the provinces.
And whose Government who is thinking of buying Fast Air now? Not us mate. Your turn will come soon enough Tango.
Besides this current government down here who did not order those aircraft but has SOLD off 22 LAV's to Chile and two 55m Patrol Vessels to Ireland and 40 perfectly serviceable 4x4 Mercedes Benz Unimogs that were useful to Army Reserve units out in the provinces.
So all not sweetness and light.
I think selling off 22 LAVs (LAND) and 40 UNIMOGS (LAND) is a fair redistribution of forces towards a Maritime/Air disposition for an Island nation like New Zealand.
Your recent Naval/Air response to Tonga and deployment of Frigates on exercises and membership of CTF-150 indicates a particular maritime focus.
Ye even have part of your own satellite. Ireland can only continue to dream, delay and write dust gathering reports.
Today marks another major milestone as Boeing debuted the first of our P-8A Poseidon aircraft, the new multi-mission maritime patrol aircraft. The aircraft f...
A Beautiful sight. Great to see a state take a mature responsibility for the security of it's seas. On that note, what is the latest on the 3rd OPV?
BTW, any commentary on the negative reporting on the purchase of the IPV in the last week (as posted in the news section). Many keyboard warriors jumping on the bandwagon suggesting they are unsuitable for Irish waters, if they were unsuited to NZ waters.
For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
A Beautiful sight. Great to see a state take a mature responsibility for the security of it's seas. On that note, what is the latest on the 3rd OPV?
BTW, any commentary on the negative reporting on the purchase of the IPV in the last week (as posted in the news section). Many keyboard warriors jumping on the bandwagon suggesting they are unsuitable for Irish waters, if they were unsuited to NZ waters.
NZ didn’t say the IPVs where unsuitable for their waters
NZ didn’t purchase enough OPVs, which meant that they started to try and employ the IPVs as OPVs
It is a bit ironic that we are getting two of the Project Protector IPVs to serve in the Irish Sea while the MRV of the project (HMNZ Canterbury) is based on an Irish Sea ferry design. Will we get her too?
It is a bit ironic that we are getting two of the Project Protector IPVs to serve in the Irish Sea while the MRV of the project (HMNZ Canterbury) is based on an Irish Sea ferry design. Will we get her too?
At the rate the project has been dragged out, we may be in the position to buy her just as she is about to retire from NZ service, to be replaced by an LHD.
For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
Project was paused due to the need to redirect funding towards the Covid response. It will probably restart next year. It was well along the way in terms of project definition and was shaping up to be similar to the recent Chilean Antarctic vessel going on the request to industry. The reality is that now we also need a fourth OPV since the South Pacific has become more contested.
BTW, any commentary on the negative reporting on the purchase of the IPV in the last week (as posted in the news section). Many keyboard warriors jumping on the bandwagon suggesting they are unsuitable for Irish waters, if they were unsuited to NZ waters.
There is nothing wrong at all with their seakeeping or capability to do maritime constabulary tasking.
The key issue was range and endurance in the context of New Zealand and its EEZ of over 4 million square kilometres or 2200 kilometres top to bottom and 1000 kilometres wide. I believe this EZZ is ten times the size of Irelands. NZ is not that small it just looks that way on the world map and Australia is much larger than it looks too even though it makes NZ look small next to it some 2200 kilometres away.
A cheap skate government decided to build more locally built IPV's rather than Australian built OPV's to save money and pretend to a public that frankly did not care less that they were building more ships.
Thank you sir.
Some journo's have gone on a solo run trying to criticise the purchase, but some of them still think it is the UK built Lake class being bought.
I have been trying to explain to some on twitter exactly what you have said but when these critics dismiss the need for a NZ Naval vessel with Ice protection you know you are wasting your energy. That's quite a large chunk of the planet to look after. Hopefully the P-8As arrive on time and ready to go until the surface vessel issue is sorted.
For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
A cheap skate government decided to build more locally built IPV's rather than Australian built OPV's to save money and pretend to a public that frankly did not care less that they were building more ships.
The decision to go with LM Canada for the ANZAC frigate upgrade is another "lower cost" option that seems to have gone wrong given the cost overruns and delays.
Running with the RAN program of updates would have meant that all costs would have been known with certainly up front (after 3 or 4 RAN ships had been updated), and possibly allowed for some of the work undertaken in NZ but managed out of Australia. It also would have spread the upgrades (and costs) across a number of projects, rather than a single one off effort.
The result may have been ships with more capability than the NZ government may have deemed necessary, but the RNZN would not have been obliged to fit AGM-84 Harpoon or even the full compliment of 32 RIM-162.
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