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start a seperate thread
now away with you
and stop bringing my topic of subject
yahh yalla Imshi
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would one care to wager a small bet on the above questionThings fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
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Originally posted by hedgehog View PostSO you reckon that there is NOT ONE UNit that reenactors could dress up
a Unit that has never been tainted by accusations of war crimes
is that what your saying
And I know it was Das Reich men that did Oradour not the Leibstandarte.sigpic
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Originally posted by hedgehog View Poststart a seperate thread
now away with you
and stop bringing my topic of subject
yahh yalla Imshi
PS
would one care to wager a small bet on the above question
As for going off topic.
Booming CRH may bid for £3bn Tarmac
By Sophie Brodie
Last Updated: 12:18am BST 29/08/2007
CRH, one of the world's biggest suppliers of building materials, could bid for British rival Tarmac, which was put up for sale this month by miner Anglo-American.
Speaking as the company reported bumper interim results, finance director Myles Lee said: "I think you can take it that most of the major participants will be looking at the target opportunity and we will be doing likewise."
CRH has yet to hire bankers to look at Tarmac and may consider a bid using its own in-house corporate finance team.
advertisementHarry Goad, analyst at Credit Suisse, said: "Although at the speculated price of £3bn, Tarmac would be CRH's largest ever transaction by a considerable distance, the company is keen to stress that it has both the financial and management capacity to make such purchases if it feels the investment opportunity is correct."
Tarmac is one of the few remaining UK building materials companies, after its biggest rival Hanson was taken over this year by Germany's HeidelbergCement in an £8bn deal.
Observers believe that as well as trade buyers such as Lafarge, Holcim and even Heidelberg, Tarmac could attract interest from private equity, despite the recent credit crunch.
CRH posted a 27pc rise in pre-tax profits to €670m (£455m) for the six months to June despite a downturn in the US housing market which has been suffering from the sub-prime fiasco. Revenues for the first half rose 21pc to a better than expected €9.7bn.
Mr Lee said: "The results were stronger thanks to the balanced nature of our business. Our exposure to the US market for new homes is less than 10pc of overall group turnover."
Growth from Europe exceeded expectations, where first-half operating profit jumped 50pc to €495m. In the US, operating profits fell 2.5pc to €276m.
Mr Lee said demand from continental Europe had risen substantially over the past two years as the main economies recovered.
CRH also benefited from a boom in Irish housebuilding which has slowed in recent months. Mr Lee said: "We've been expecting the slowdown for a number of years. After the recent boom fuelled by inward immigration, we would expect it to settle. But there are very good levels of activity for 2007 and 2008, especially from non-residential construction." Part of this will come from a need to upgrade Ireland's airports.
It has plans to continue expanding in Europe, the US (through non-residential) and Asia. Mr Lee said: "We have a small position in China and are trying to add to that in a controlled fashion."
Meanwhile, the company predicted that further acquisitions would contribute to strong growth for the full year. It hopes to announce more deals in the second half, when it makes most of its profits, after spending €1bn in the first half.
The company plans to pay an interim dividend of 20 cents, up 48pc on last year. The shares closed up 66 cents at €30.96.
You are not a Mod here.
Don't forget.
Shortly after CRH’s foundation in 1970 the Board set a clear strategy for the development of the Group which, while it has evolved over the years, is still broadly applicable today. CRH’s development strategy is based on the following:
Stick to core businesses in building materials
Invest at 'home'; be the low cost market leader
Develop 'overseas'; create platforms for future growth
Negotiate deals that meet the sellers’ and CRH’s needs
Devolved development teams reporting to regional and product group managers
Rigorous approach to evaluation, approval and review
Generally mid-sized deals augmented from time to time with some larger transactions
Objective is to maintain and develop a balanced portfolio across regions, products and construction sectors
Focus on performance and growth
Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.
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Originally posted by Groundhog View PostNo, what I'm saying is that every nation that has ever waged war has had soldiers that have committed war crimes. They may never have been convicted, accused or even suspected of war crimes. But undoubtedly they occurred. In real terms what is the difference between the men who bombed Dresden and the men who massacred the people of Oradour Sur Glane.
And I know it was Das Reich men that did Oradour not the Leibstandarte.
every nation that has ever waged war has had soldiers that have committed war crimes
hind legs-
When people in real life break the law they are not guilty criminals until they have been
convicted- even though they actually did break the law
a lot (note the lesser term) Armies may have committed War crimes, but they are not
guilty of war crimes until a recognised Court finds the charges against them proven.
If you look at the stuff that American forces have done in Iraq
and if you look at the stuff Saddam Did
Saddam Hung- GW Bush is colouring in his favourite book
so to answer your question
I think the answer is - One lost the war- One won the War
the victor not only gets to write the historyThings fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
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You have yet to back up this statement, therefor I can deduce that like always, you are talking through your sphincter
Wow I got points for bringing a topic of subject
I also got points for indulging in personal abuse
I guess its a different set of rules for Moderators
But just in case any of the other moderators decide that my feelings were hurt
they werent so Please dont Penalise Goldie
I forgive himThings fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
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Originally posted by hedgehog View Posta lot (note the lesser term) Armies may have committed War crimes, but they are not
guilty of war crimes until a recognised Court finds the charges against them proven.
Which leads me once more to wonder what your problem is with the officially blameless IDF and since you brought up the subject the officially blameless GWB.
Originally posted by hedgehog View PostYou cannot definitively say that- wars have been going on since man got up on his
hind legs-Last edited by Groundhog; 29 August 2007, 21:33.sigpic
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that Jesuit education has stood you good
I said the IDF were not honourable in their actions (and that was in response to you)
I think they are gulity of War Crimes - but what I think is irrelevant
unless they have been convicted by an recognised COurt, then I can think
all I want.
My issue and time and time again I have stated this is
there are lads who think it is the crack to dress up as this nazi ss unit
a unit that were convicted of killing innocents.
now we know these are murdering war crime bastarsd because they have been convicted
who exactly were you referring to when you said
those who murdered millions and got away with itThings fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
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Originally posted by hedgehog View PostI said the IDF were not honourable in their actions (and that was in response to you)
I think they are gulity of War Crimes - but what I think is irrelevant
unless they have been convicted by an recognised COurt, then I can think
all I want.
Originally posted by hedgehog View PostMy issue and time and time again I have stated this is
there are lads who think it is the crack to dress up as this nazi ss unit
a unit that were convicted of killing innocents.
Originally posted by hedgehog View Postnow we know these are murdering war crime bastarsd because they have been convicted
Originally posted by hedgehog View Postwho exactly were you referring to when you said
if they werent convicted, then its your opinion that they murdered millionssigpic
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I think we have to differenciate between
what I beleive/My Opinion
and those who have actually been convicted
I am of the opinion that the Russians/Chineese/Brits/Yanks/Ourselves etc
have all committed what could be classed as war crimes
but thats my opinion and NO court has convicted or found against them on this issue
so we are back to my opinion- simply that
but I know that the SS Unit in question are war criminals because a Court has convicted
them
By your own logic you may not think ill of the IDF since they haven't tried for war crimes.
operations, I think ill of them
Granted. But you also know that the Israelis and GWB are war criminals despite the fact that they haven't been convicted.
but he was never convicted of it
but i would bet my left testeThings fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
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Originally posted by hedgehog View PostI think we have to differenciate between
what I beleive/My Opinion
and those who have actually been convicted
Originally posted by Goldie fish View PostGerry was not a member of the IRA....sigpic
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