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    Here is a photo of the vessel formerly known as John Adams, as it currently lies on the mud in Bideford. She no longer floats with the tide.

    I believe she worked as a Dept of Defence tender in the 40s and 50s, being built for the Royal Navy in 1934 before Haulbowline was handed over to the Free state. She was inherited with the Naval Base four years later and served there until being sold in 1987.

    I gather the owner who bought it in 88 and spent most of his time attempting to restore it has since died.



    Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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    Thats a little bit of history there... a link to the Corvettes and founding of the Irish Naval Service ?
    'History is a vast early warning system'. Norman Cousins

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    • #3
      A photo of the vessel in better days.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by spider View Post
        Thats a little bit of history there... a link to the Corvettes and founding of the Irish Naval Service ?
        Earlier again. It goes right back to the Marine service of the Emergency. The Naval service only appeared in 1947.


        Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by pmtts View Post
          A photo of the vessel in better days.
          Hi pmtts, can you repost the photo of the 'John Adams'. It's not appearing on the site. Thanks.

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          • #6
            Found this photo in an archive. I took it in 1982 at Haulbowline. Sad to hear that it is in a sorry state now.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Test Pilot View Post
              Hi pmtts, can you repost the photo of the 'John Adams'. It's not appearing on the site. Thanks.
              It is for me? anyone else see it.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by pmtts View Post
                It is for me? anyone else see it.
                SEEN
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                • #9
                  Sometimes those photos dissapear if the source site exceeds its bandwidth. I can see it fine.


                  Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
                    Earlier again. It goes right back to the Marine service of the Emergency. The Naval service only appeared in 1947.
                    Is there any mileage in raising this with a TD to have it brought home and restored as a floating museum exhibit (if the owners will sell it) ?

                    Seems a real shame its got into that state.

                    Lottery grant ?
                    'History is a vast early warning system'. Norman Cousins

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by spider View Post
                      Is there any mileage in raising this with a TD to have it brought home and restored as a floating museum exhibit (if the owners will sell it) ?

                      Seems a real shame its got into that state.

                      Lottery grant ?

                      One way of starting I guess is to contact the guy below:

                      martyn.heighton@nationalhistoricships.org.uk

                      Im sure they will have a record of the present owner and other relevant details.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by pmtts View Post
                        It is for me? anyone else see it.
                        pmtts, Sorry I feel a bit of an idiot! I can see it now for some reason. Thanks!

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                        • #13
                          Hers is another one, 'Romer' from the naval base. As she was and as she is now. Another sad case, just like 'John Adams'
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                            Thats another real shame. Looks like a total loss.

                            Does anyone have the book about the Muirichu ? Does it mention these vessels ? I had a copy but can't put my hand on it.
                            'History is a vast early warning system'. Norman Cousins

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                            • #15
                              the only mention of these vesels is in Mc Ivors book on the Naval servive or Tom McGintys book on the same subject...only describeds as support vessels.

                              the one of the Sir Cecil Romer, hse eventually became the Deiseach and was operated by No 3 Coy Sluam Muiri and was tied up at the now marina for a few years..any ideas where she ended up?

                              the Boston Whaler was restored by several seamanship classes in 1986 and returned to service as a training boat. I have a picture of it somewhere under oars. I have recollection of it being raced under against one of the SMs BP14s.

                              There was a brilliant RN training film made in the 50's about handling this type of boat. I wonder if the Film or the boat still exist?


                              The whaler!
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