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  • #31
    Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
    I'll have to find the photo again, but I think the magazine was fed into the pistol grip, Uzi style.
    I can't think of any weapon of that vintage, which is pistol grip fed ....
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Truck Driver View Post
      I can't think of any weapon of that vintage, which is pistol grip fed ....
      When you say "any weapon" have you not forgotten automatic pistols which have had magazines fed into the grip for about 100 years?
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      • #33
        Originally posted by DeV View Post
        Did the Sten have the capability to self-cock?
        Yes, as did the MP40 & many other open bolt, blowback-operated SMGs with no breach-locking mechanism.
        Last edited by FMolloy; 4 May 2010, 18:11.
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        • #34
          Hi there,
          The Sten's main fault, apart from being built down to a price, was it's magazine feed lips could be easily warped resulting in a feed jam. The Gustav, even when in perfect nick, could fire itself off when jarred against a solid object. Why couldn't they come up with a proper safety catch on the trigger mechanism instead of just a cut-out slot for the bolt?
          regards
          GttC

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          • #35
            Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
            Hi there,
            The Gustav, even when in perfect nick, could fire itself off when jarred against a solid object. Why couldn't they come up with a proper safety catch on the trigger mechanism instead of just a cut-out slot for the bolt?
            regards
            GttC
            SMG had the same problem, unsurprisingly! (I did like it though, even if it did have something sticking in your kidneys however it was slung over your back!)
            (p.s. I'm not saying BA kit is/was better mods before someone complains, I'm saying it was equally bad )
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            • #36
              i don't know if the Irish DF did use the Sten or not, but i was doing weapons checks today and we had one in our armoury. felt horrible to hold - not very ergonomic at all!

              we also had 3 x brand new SLR's - still in their original greased wrappers!

              i don't think i like the Sten.
              RGJ

              ...Once a Rifleman - Always a Rifleman... Celer et Audax

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              • #37
                Originally posted by RoyalGreenJacket View Post
                i don't know if the Irish DF did use the Sten or not, but i was doing weapons checks today and we had one in our armoury. felt horrible to hold - not very ergonomic at all!

                we also had 3 x brand new SLR's - still in their original greased wrappers!

                i don't think i like the Sten.
                Sten, or Stirling?


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                • #38
                  Sten Goldie - deffo a Sten.

                  there was also a Sterling though.
                  RGJ

                  ...Once a Rifleman - Always a Rifleman... Celer et Audax

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by REX View Post
                    When you say "any weapon" have you not forgotten automatic pistols which have had magazines fed into the grip for about 100 years?
                    We are referring to a sub machine gun here, though, which is what I was referring to...

                    Fair dues, I might have worded it a bit badly, me bad...
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                    • #40
                      Unless you are thinking of semi-automatic Mauser C96s, of which there were a few knocking about in WoI/Civil war times?
                      regards
                      GttC

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                      • #41
                        Thanks everyone for the information just what I was looking for.

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                        • #42
                          Apparently the Gardai auctioned off some captured PIRA/SF weapons in 1983, a few Thompsons included. http://thompsongunireland.com/New%20...0Narrative.htm
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by The real Jack View Post
                            Apparently the Gardai auctioned off some captured PIRA/SF weapons in 1983, a few Thompsons included. http://thompsongunireland.com/New%20...0Narrative.htm
                            I think the Df , Navy had at one time a sub machine gun called the lanchester,, Dont klnow much about it but have an idea AI saw a photo of a boarding party etc carrying one. I think the Rn used it for a no of years.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by BANDIT View Post
                              ... lanchester...
                              i've definately heard that word before, and i think in relation to small arms - its not, to my knowledge, a placename, which it sounds like it should be - perhaps thats why it stuck.

                              which is odd, given my view that anything less than 105 isn't a real gun....

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                              • #45
                                Lanchester is in Co Durham, England.

                                Dont know if this is related:

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