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[greyfox]

anyone give me any information on this photo , it is of my grandfather in the civil war or post civil war era , taken in Dublin . any idea what unit would have had horses at the time ? anyone able to put date to it ?

[Truck Driver]

White lanyard initially would suggest Arty, but maybe might have been the Transport Corps

[Liachta Cultaca]

The cavalry had stables at the back of Bricins Hospital and close to Collins Barracks the road is now called Cavalry Row might be somewhere in that area

[greyfox]

apparently he was with the convoy when Micheal Collins got shot , dunno the validity of it however did a bit of research but never could confirm . there was a box in our house which contained letters and the like which got burnt at a time when no one really cared about the past ,

[Goldie fish]

Historically the Cav in the Irish DF have never used horses. However Artillery used them up to the 1930s.
Weren't the "Blue Hussars" artillery?
Also, the Cav in the early years wore the Glengarry, while the man in the Photo clearly wears the Soft Peaker, common to all other ranks up to the 1960s.

Also, though it is hard to say for sure, the horse appears to be a Cob or Shire of some sort(judging from the Hind Quarters and the shape of the head) which would again be more common in an Artillery horse.

[riflemangundy]

Historically the Cav in the Irish DF have never used horses. However Artillery used them up to the 1930s.
Weren't the "Blue Hussars" artillery?
Also, the Cav in the early years wore the Glengarry, while the man in the Photo clearly wears the Soft Peaker, common to all other ranks up to the 1960s.

Also, though it is hard to say for sure, the horse appears to be a Cob or Shire of some sort(judging from the Hind Quarters and the shape of the head) which would again be more common in an Artillery horse.

arent the cav the blue hussars? looks artillery alright even the horse has a white a white lanyard!!!

[DeV]

Correct Hussars were Arty

[Victor]

The cavalry had stables at the back of Bricins Hospital and close to Collins Barracks the road is now called Cavalry Row might be somewhere in that area

Quite a few barracks had extensive stables, having been built in the era of the horse.

[golden rivet]

39L is that on the horse or negative

[hptmurphy]

arent the cav the blue hussars

Nope ..Artillery . Cav didn't form until 1922 and the lanyard is green red and black.

Given the bandolier I would suggest artillery.

Cavalry were never horse mounted while artillery still had horse drawn units up to 1940.

I would suggest that the photograph is from a cermonial.possibly a funeral...I have seen a shot of similar age with the same equipment from a state funeral after the Civil war.

there is the theory regarding Michael Collins escort that it was bit like those who claimed to be at Princes s Gate with the SAS in 1980, that the numbers claimed to be there as opposed to actually there out numbered the total who ever served in the SAS.

If the man in the photo was from the same locality as your self it is highly likely given the route taken and where elements of the escort were added.

I will add its just as well that Horses unlike Nissan Patrols hadn't central locking.....as it might well still be there...

[WES]

Definitely artillery. Only artillery used the leather bandolier.

[greyfox]

thanks for the info ,

i believe it was taken at a passing out parade , the picture was also a postcard mostly illegible thanks to fading and the hand writing of time there is a 5 figured number which is possibly an army number and the word depot , there was no stamp but an address so not sure was it ever delivered
the 39l is i believe on the horse ,

would it have been unusual for some one in the south to train in Dublin ?