jadotVille

[sofa]

They were the fall guys for the people who sent them in to Jadotville.
The hostage situation that followed was a embarrassing problem for the un,
May have a being a immature/lack of experience response by the military authorities to real warfare,
If the men involved in the Niemba ambush had survived they should have being charged with gross negligence. But as things turned out they were given a state funeral.

[danno]

Given that elmost every Defence establishment is named in honour of patriots who surrendered and the Defence Act permiits surrendering it is hard to accept the hang up the MA had about Jaydo.

[na grohmiti]

Saw it last night and thought it was a good show, no really stupid Oirish accents except maybe for CCOB. The showdown at the end in Baldonnel(?) was a bit unrealistic and I'm sure the Black Lives Matter lads will have a hissy fit about the amount of Katangese causalities.

To be fair, Cruiser did speak as if he had a hot potato in his mouth. Try and find one of his appearances on the LLS as an example.

http://www.rte.ie/archives/2014/1029...nd-journalist/

[morpheus]

Yeah well if punching a general and having your ar$e shaved by a crashing chopper is what was required by "hollywood", to get this made... then im ok by it

[Big Al]

Saw it last night and thought it was a good show, no really stupid Oirish accents except maybe for CCOB. The showdown at the end in Baldonnel(?) was a bit unrealistic and I'm sure the Black Lives Matter lads will have a hissy fit about the amount of Katangese causalities.

[Shaqra]

Hello Shaqra yes that's a pity were you in the area for it as judging by your location I would think you may not be a local but could be wrong. Yep reckon we dodged it all right I stayed to listen to a bit of it , were you one of three lads sitting up at the back on the right ? A thought struck me during the film that a few of us of a certain vintage would have probably fired most of the weapons the Irish lads were using what do you reckon.

Nope - not a local. Travelled in from Kildare for it - handiest Cinema for the M50. I was up front on the right. As for vintage you are spot on - I was thinking as well that most of us had done TOETs on most of the weapons as either PDF or FCA (Before our reserve colleagues have a fit I'm referring to the organisation that was in existence when the Bren and the Rifle No4 Mk IIF were in service) . If I were to be kind I would exclude the Vickers but then again .................. !

[Shaqra]

@shaqra, the SAR people in the Don have never been unrecognised. They have the most DSMs for a start and even in the cynical Don, they were held in high respect for doing some really scary rescues in single-engined Alouettes....

Understood but I was referring to the general public. I find the sudden enthusiasm on the part of Joe Public for "righting the wrongs" done to the Defence Forces to be somewhat nauseating. In the 80's and 90's we were abused and villified - not by DFHQ but by Joe Public. The media treated deafness claims as some sort of scam and our meager budget was pillaged for School buses, harbour upgrades and every local scam going. We were binmen, bus drivers (I see that canard is raising it's ugly head again) and tanker drivers. We even had to chip ice off the streets because it the local traders were too bloody lazy to do it themselves. (I had to stop one of my platoon from braining an usher at the Central bank who was trying to instruct him where to sweep the snow).

Jadotville has been in the public domain for 50 years - where were the press articles, where were in the campaigns in the 60's, 70's and 80's ? The same hypocrites who were happy to shunt their daughters off to the Magdalen laundries and their sons to Artane are the ones who were "ashamed" of the "surrender" of A Company. Irish society - not some obscure agency or bureaucrat - Irish society.

Forgive the rant - I'm off to renew my Netflix subscription. My aim is to watch Jadotville at least as many times as I've watched Paths of Glory, The Desert Fox and the boxed set of Band of Brothers.

[bohs fan]

Opportunity missed Bohs - I was there too and agree about the reception. Pity they couldn't get the live feed going but, judging by the feedback on Dave Fanning, we probably dodged a bullet !

Hello Shaqra yes that's a pity were you in the area for it as judging by your location I would think you may not be a local but could be wrong. Yep reckon we dodged it all right I stayed to listen to a bit of it , were you one of three lads sitting up at the back on the right ? A thought struck me during the film that a few of us of a certain vintage would have probably fired most of the weapons the Irish lads were using what do you reckon.

[GoneToTheCanner]

@shaqra, the SAR people in the Don have never been unrecognised. They have the most DSMs for a start and even in the cynical Don, they were held in high respect for doing some really scary rescues in single-engined Alouettes....

[Shaqra]

Morpheus agree with you saw it in Santry last night few exers & serving people at it great reception at the end .

Opportunity missed Bohs - I was there too and agree about the reception. Pity they couldn't get the live feed going but, judging by the feedback on Dave Fanning, we probably dodged a bullet !

[morpheus]

Loved the director not faffing about when asked did he think the lads got a raw deal when they returned.... not pulling punches like the producers vague PC answer , he says "they were shafted!"

[Pegasus]

Dave Fanning is still alive????

[bohs fan]

Morpheus agree with you saw it in Santry last night few exers & serving people at it great reception at the end .

[morpheus]

Saw the movie,f**k the anoraks, give it a break "based" on a true story etc, i loved every second of it. one of the only times i have ever heard an irish audience applaud and cheer at the end of a movie.

movies@swords

in the Q&A Dave Fanning was crap. such an utterly stupid line of questioning ive not seen in ages. repeatedly hitting Jamie Dornan with 50 shades references and if having such a good looking actor would increase the marketability of the movie etc. knob.

[sofa]

Army seems to have a policy of downplaying any shit that happens abroad, just in case the government of the day looses its nerve and brings the troops home.
Also in Jadotville they were bacially taken on the despicable Belgians