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  • Identification of Brass Artillery Shell Casings.

    I have in my posession a shell casing from some form of artillery piece that I am unable to identify. Is there any website that I could find information on it,based on the markings on the base?
    It was found in a back garden,buried,in cork city some years ago.
    It is stamped with numerous markings, including 1904 and on the precussion cap, No2III 12/14 and R^L

    Can anyone throw any light on it? Its about the same length as a Bofors 40mm shell,but the calibre is about double that.


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    Its a fair bet that it's British. You could try the Royal Artillery Museum and the National Army Museum. I had both their addresses once but would have to organise a major search for them now. Try the websites for postal addresses.
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    • #3
      Thanks..I discovered the R^L usually points to Royal Logistics..but thats the best I can come up with so far..


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      • #4
        Dunno. Logistics seems a very modern term for a century ago. I would have thought that the stamp should be Royal Ordnance, the arrowhead being their "trademark".
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        • #5
          If its "about the same length as a Bofors 40mm shell, but the calibre is about double that" it could be a 13pdr or 18pdr shell case. If you have any photos post them here and I may be able to identify it. Also measure the lenght of the case etc. RL stands for the Royal Laboratories Woolwich Arsenal.

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          • #6
            I don't think so It has always been Royal ordinance even now under BAE systems. Royal Ordinance is still on all cases and Ammo Boxes. Maybe it ment Rebel Langers (Sorry Goldie couldn't resist)

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            • #7
              It is Royal Labratories allright,I done some more research..
              The Shell which is rimmed ,is 30cm in length,has a rim diameter of 75mm and a calibre of about 60-65mm but its hard to tell as it was pretty damaged when it was found. Its in good nick now tho,but I havent managed to return the opening to a proper round shape.
              Here is a photo/scan of the base,it may be of some help.
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              • #8
                According to the experts on Tanknet (who know about these things) it is a
                British naval 6 pdr (57x306R) Hotchkiss, also fitted to the "male" versions of the first tanks in WW1
                So the next question is,how did it find its way to a back garden near Blackrock castle...

                The Harbour forts were fitted with 6 pounder guns...More info on the forts can be found here .

                Some were also mounted to the Flower Class Corvettes,and the MTBs..


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                • #9
                  Well indeed it does look like either a 6Pdr or a 12Pdr casing which could be found in the harbour forts & also Dun Laoighaire Pier which are used for Gun salutes for foreign vessels of State Well Done!!
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                  • #10
                    The complete round is the left-hand one in this picture (the others are the three-pounder, the two-pounder anti-tank and the WW2 six-pounder anti-tank). The 6 pdr 8 cwt, as it is properly known, was also used in WW1 'male' tanks.

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                    • #11
                      Thanks,Welcome aboard by the way. Yellowjacket pointed me towards your site,and the info was much appreciated. Now I have to figure out how it made its way to a back garden in cork city.


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                      • #12
                        Did you ever find out?
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                        • #13
                          No, but it's great for holding change.
                          Very little detail on any of the Harbour fort guns that weren't the big ones.
                          Last edited by Goldie fish; 26 December 2008, 11:51.


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                          • #14
                            www.bocn.co.uk

                            TRY ASKING THESE GUYS

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                            • #15
                              2 Artillery shells

                              Hi I bought 2 Artillery Brass Shell casings over the weekend can anyone give me some information please. No firing cap or projectile,

                              6cm diameter base and standing 31cm
                              numbers on base of shells:[LIST][*]10 mm4 ECC 50 Z 1951 GD LOT 215[*]06682001 07181029 40/50 m/78 99281002

                              Really appreciate it in advance

                              Bodi

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