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  • Buck
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    I feel like I know the answer, apod, but how do these uniforms get approved? Are there people looking at international uniforms/best practices? Or is it just a bunch of officers going "how cheap can it be made while still looking good on parade?"

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  • apod
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    Originally posted by Wiggles View Post
    Never been issued "operational" trousers in my whole career.... Poxy winter bottoms every time, even on a summer trip to the leb probably never see those either
    If you have been issued any item of DPM kit since 2011 it has "operational" on the label.The standard trousers up to now were labeled "winter" but if you go back to the advent of DPMs in the DF what is now the "winter" trousers was once the "summer" trousers(Anybody remember the original Winter trousers with the non breathable membrane/liner seat and knees?).

    Once the DF got rid of the original "winter"trousers the "Tropical" trousers, which first saw use in Timor with the Wing, became the DeFacto summer trousers and were usually only issued for overseas use. In 2011 they were renamed "Operational trousers summer" officially.

    My last trip to the Leb was a summer one and we were only issued two of these.Despite being ordered to bring four full sets of shirt and trousers. Thankfully I still had a few fairly good trousers from a previous trip and they became my patrol dress along with the newly issued UBACS and the new trousers were kept for good wear.

    Shoot forward to 2017/8. The days of two different weights of cloth for "Winter" and "summer" is gone. The new trousers/smock and shirt all come in an Intermediate weight cloth halfway between the old national issue and overseas issue kit.So now we will only have one type of trouser going forward.Albeit in male and female variants.
    So in short no.You won't see the old summer trousers on issue anymore.

    Speaking of kit changes I had a good look at the new smock/UBACS and waterproof Jacket today.Some good points.Some bad.

    New Smock sizes are completely different to the old sizes. Smock has a fleece lined mandarin collar so it will look ridiculous when worn folded down when hood is detached. Hood is held on with three old style buttons as opposed to the Canadian slotted style we are used to so loosing buttons again becomes an issue. Inner zipped pocket has moved down to below the waist drawcord on the left. Drawcords are now inside the waist.Gonna be super comfortable when worn with kit pushing the toggles into you ribs Storm cuffs now have a single piece of elastic shockcord instead of the current elasticated knitted cuffs. Upper sleeve pockets are a good size and have a black piece of web material sewn onto the inside back of each pocket and stitched into two loops. Ideal for Cyalumes. Too big for pens etc Plenty of places to carry pens though.Two slots at the top of each upper sleeve pocket and an open top double pen pocket on the lower left sleeve. FFD pocket on the lower right sleeve.

    Waterproof jacket is shorter than the old design.Lower sleeves have the exact same pocket design as on the new smock. Internal waist drawcord and zipped lower outer pockets. Material is a PU/PA mix.Sadly not PTFE(Goretex)

    New UBACS has an offset neck zip.Same design as the new Belgian one which kinda makes sense seeing as the are both made in the same factory. Design introduced to discourage people from going around with the zip undone.Theory being that the collar is supposed to be kept zipped to protect the neck from flame etc.
    Last edited by apod; 13 May 2019, 16:15.

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  • Wiggles
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    Never been issued "operational" trousers in my whole career.... Poxy winter bottoms every time, even on a summer trip to the leb probably never see those either

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  • apod
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    Last one.
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  • apod
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    Got these from a friend. Unusual seeing as they are female specific when I was under the impression we were moving back to unisex clothing.
    Hence the A****ion of a shirt that's coming on stream.
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  • apod
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    Ok. Took me a few days but here is the procedure in 1 BDE.
    If you require outsize clothing you follow normal procedure regarding kit request, 245B etc.
    However the request for kit must also have attached a report from the Bde Master tailor after he'she has measured you.
    Bde stores then send paperwork all the way up the chain and the uniform is ordered specially from the manufacturers.
    This obviously takes considerable time.

    Alternatively,unless you are built like the incredible hulk naturally, then hit the salad and the roads. You might loose the weight and fit into a regular uniform faster than waiting on a bespoke uniform to arrive from Belgium!

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  • koppiteal
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    Ah im not a fan of salad. Thats why i need the oversize clothing
    Last edited by koppiteal; 5 May 2019, 23:42.

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  • sofa
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    Originally posted by koppiteal View Post
    Is there a process for oversize clothing
    Salad option

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  • koppiteal
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    Is there a process for oversize clothing

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  • apod
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    2017 Pattern DPM shirt.
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  • apod
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    Originally posted by trellheim View Post
    Apod you were going to come back to me on ordering oversize clothing at some point
    My bad.Been up the walls.Completely forgot.
    Watch this space.

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  • Flamingo
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    Just come to mind, speaking of clothes sizes, I was looking at chinos in M&S a few days ago - they had a pair on the rail, waist 42, inside leg 30, style “Slim fitting”...

    Carry on

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  • trellheim
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    Apod you were going to come back to me on ordering oversize clothing at some point

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  • apod
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    Originally posted by paul g View Post
    Or perhaps you’ve gained a few pounds with maturity
    Oh.For sure.But it's not me that's just saying it. Buddy of mine said it to me first(he takes the same size as me) so I tried on one of his.
    Just as he said.
    Bate onto me.

    PS: How very dare you call me mature

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  • paul g
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    Originally posted by apod View Post

    BTW: Beware the 2018 t-shirts. If you go for the same size in a 2018 as a 2017,the new ones are very tight fitting.
    Or perhaps you’ve gained a few pounds with maturity

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