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  • Originally posted by Truck Driver View Post

    Heard another rumour of late 2023 cutover to new kit for all (PDF and RDF)
    100% BS. The RFT hasn't even gone out yet. Usually 2-3 months before tender deadline and can be up to another 4-5 before tender awarded. 26 Week lead in time form tender award to first deliveries. That timeline is too tight as described. late 2024 at earliest.
    "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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    • According to the DF Connect App. Tender is at Pre tender stage with industry engagement ongoing. with the PIN due for publication in Q2 2023.
      "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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      • Originally posted by apod View Post
        According to the DF Connect App. Tender is at Pre tender stage with industry engagement ongoing. with the PIN due for publication in Q2 2023.
        So where would that leave initial issues in terms of timeline, going by that?
        "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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        • They said that the PIN for the SDs went out in Q1 2023 and RFT is due out in Q2.(It didn’t btw it was Q4 2022). So going by that I would guess RFT for Operational uniform in Q3.Tender deadline is usually two months. Tender examination another 3-6 months before award of tender. Approx 26 weeks after that before stock. delivery. I would say first issues late Q3 or Q4 next year.
          "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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          • Originally posted by apod View Post
            They said that the PIN for the SDs went out in Q1 2023 and RFT is due out in Q2.(It didn’t btw it was Q4 2022).
            Are the high collar SDs that were demoed a few years back happening?
            What are you cackling at, fatty? Too much pie, that's your problem.

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            • Originally posted by ODIN View Post

              Are the high collar SDs that were demoed a few years back happening?
              It was re-proposed at DFCC previously. I don’t know if it’s going to be in this RFT.

              "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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              • Originally posted by apod View Post


                ​For those who have forgotten the glory days of 2014/15 when these were demoed! I do still think that a black leather belt and gloves would look better than the white.
                What are you cackling at, fatty? Too much pie, that's your problem.

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                • Black leather gloves are already on issue as part of SD Uniform (Including AR). I agree though that a black courlene belt should be procured and issued to Units (in smaller numbers) for Funeral bearer parties.
                  Wearing Black gloves and white belt(as per A10) for bearer parties looks ridiculous.
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                  "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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                  • While I like the idea of the Female hat, what became of the old pillbox? If we are going to go different headgear, what is the intention of a completely new one.
                    Also, surely the days of skirts have gone? (apart from the Pipe Band of course)
                    If that's the new female tunic it bears complete & total similarity to the old one. Hate the neck bow thing. It's like someone spent too long watching old war movies from the 1950s. Women can do closed collars too, you know.

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                    For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                    • Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
                      While I like the idea of the Female hat, what became of the old pillbox? If we are going to go different headgear, what is the intention of a completely new one.
                      Also, surely the days of skirts have gone? (apart from the Pipe Band of course)
                      If that's the new female tunic it bears complete & total similarity to the old one. Hate the neck bow thing. It's like someone spent too long watching old war movies from the 1950s. Women can do closed collars too, you know.

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                      If the army band & 2 Cav EoH can have females with closed collars….

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                      • Originally posted by apod View Post
                        Black leather gloves are already on issue as part of SD Uniform (Including AR). I agree though that a black courlene belt should be procured and issued to Units (in smaller numbers) for Funeral bearer parties.
                        Wearing Black gloves and white belt(as per A10) for bearer parties looks ridiculous.
                        I should have been clearer, what I meant, was a black belt for day to day wear as opposed to the current Green material belt with the No. 1's. I'll need to chat to the Q about those black gloves though!
                        What are you cackling at, fatty? Too much pie, that's your problem.

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                        • To answer a couple of points. There was also a closed collar version of the proposed new SDs for females worn with trousers. As for female SD's at present. Females can opt to wear either a skirt or Trousers with their SD NO 1's on Parade. Their choice. Same fro 2's and 3's. Pillbox/Birds nest was done away with when we got the Peakers. The Ladies have a peaker too. Just smaller dimensions.
                          "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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                          • Yet the Air Corps ladies still wear the pillbox. I know different services have different uniforms, but on the cadet GoH it just triggered my OCD.
                            For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                            • Originally posted by ODIN View Post
                              I'll need to chat to the Q about those black gloves though!

                              Yep me too. With many years' service done, wasn't aware that leather gloves were on issue to AR enlisted

                              "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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                              • Originally posted by Truck Driver View Post


                                Yep me too. With many years' service done, wasn't aware that leather gloves were on issue to AR enlisted
                                I was issued them about 12 years ago (they are on the RDF scale of issue that long)

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