Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Defence Forces Combat Clothing System

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #46
    A decent suit for its day, but the protection game has moved on. They've been attempting to replace those for a considerable amount of time. Likewise, the FM-12 refurb kicks the can down the road for another few years ref a respirator replacement.
    At least they DID a refurb! Unlike the GS86 which was allowed to be issued long past it's use by date. Yeah. Good suit. Need a few bells and whistles to make it more user friendly. Top of my list to add? Pre fixed felt patches for Detector paper placement. Takes out the guess work for troops who may have less time in the IPE than others to figure out where the patches go. Thigh pockets would be handy and velcro on the sleeves for fixing IR Combat ID patches.

    As for the RESI? Avon FM 50 or 53. Either or. Hands down. Just don't fall into the British GSR trap. Total dog poop.


    Ref the DFCCS, it would appear from the tender documents that the supplier must tender the entire system and one full system is selected. So it might leave it open for further developments to take place later, but it will be "later"
    Any "Developments" should be part of DFCCS from the get go. If we get what I think we are getting then DFCCS will be a step change from what we have now. Educating both Leadership (On what can be worn and how) and troops (When and when not to wear and how to maintain) will be vital though or we may as well just stay with what we have now. Not good enough to just Issue a TI and leave it up to individuals to read and interpret it. Everybody need to sign in to mandatory briefs from the suppliers on the system, it's employment and how to look after it. All ranks both PDF and AR.


    "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

    Comment


    • #47
      Along with Dress Admin Instructions that are actually though out and a scale of issue that involves looking at same

      Comment


      • #48
        Originally posted by apod View Post

        At least they DID a refurb! Unlike the GS86 which was allowed to be issued long past it's use by date. Yeah. Good suit. Need a few bells and whistles to make it more user friendly. Top of my list to add? Pre fixed felt patches for Detector paper placement. Takes out the guess work for troops who may have less time in the IPE than others to figure out where the patches go. Thigh pockets would be handy and velcro on the sleeves for fixing IR Combat ID patches.

        As for the RESI? Avon FM 50 or 53. Either or. Hands down. Just don't fall into the British GSR trap. Total dog poop.




        Any "Developments" should be part of DFCCS from the get go. If we get what I think we are getting then DFCCS will be a step change from what we have now. Educating both Leadership (On what can be worn and how) and troops (When and when not to wear and how to maintain) will be vital though or we may as well just stay with what we have now. Not good enough to just Issue a TI and leave it up to individuals to read and interpret it. Everybody need to sign in to mandatory briefs from the suppliers on the system, it's employment and how to look after it. All ranks both PDF and AR.

        I think the big thing that DF will wring its hands over is whether to go with a standard 40mm iso threaded canister (STANAG) or to go the proprietary route ala the Clip on/Bayonet Cartridges of the GSR or FM-50. Whilst undisputable easier for the end user, it potentially locks you into a single supplier, whereas theoretically you can source the current 40mm threaded cartridges from a wider range of sources.

        Comment


        • #49
          delete please.
          Last edited by Rocinante; 28 December 2023, 04:33.

          Comment


          • #50
            We’re celebrating St Patrick’s day with an IRDPM flash sale. Keep an eye on the store on Sunday. While you wait, learn a little more about the history of Ireland’s signature camo. ???????? ☘️.


            Arktis do a history of Irish DPM…. Flash sale coming soon

            Comment


            • #51
              Originally posted by DeV View Post
              https://www.facebook.com/reel/926965...ibextid=UalRPS

              Arktis do a history of Irish DPM…. Flash sale coming soon
              Time to take my gen 1 DPM out of the wardrobe, and sell it on e-bay at Artkis prices.
              For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

              Comment


              • #52
                Nearly into April. The last four bidders will make their pitches this month before the DF down selects to two.
                Going to be interesting to see who goes through.
                "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

                Comment


                • #53
                  Originally posted by apod View Post
                  Nearly into April. The last four bidders will make their pitches this month before the DF down selects to two.
                  Going to be interesting to see who goes through.
                  While obviously not the same thing, worth noting the issues AGS are having with their new operational uniforms.
                  We are constrained somewhat by potential suppliers, with anyone in NI potentially out of the running due to the extra cost factor.
                  For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

                  Comment


                  • #54
                    Cost is a factor of course but the budget for this is substantially greater than the outlay per soldier with our current kit. To quote D/ CoS Sp “ we’re going top shelf all the way”.

                    "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

                    Comment


                    • #55
                      Originally posted by apod View Post
                      Cost is a factor of course but the budget for this is substantially greater than the outlay per soldier with our current kit. To quote D/ CoS Sp “ we’re going top shelf all the way”.
                      Was that the D/Cos who was turning the ship around?
                      My fear is we limit ourselves to the usual suppliers, one of whom is responsible for the Flawed Garda Uniform, and the other, who doesn't understand how the human body moves.
                      For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

                      Comment


                      • #56
                        Given the recent issuing of NS-DPM, here's hoping there's been lessons learned from that project and any issues that popped up there can be avoided by the DF for the new uniform.
                        What are you cackling at, fatty? Too much pie, that's your problem.

                        Comment

                        Working...
                        X