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    Sticky: Poll: The 60's were paid by us I think.

    The 60's were paid by us I think.
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    Sticky: Poll: I doubt it tbh, the EU funded the Maltese boat...

    I doubt it tbh, the EU funded the Maltese boat and ours before because they and us couldn't reasonable afford them. Fairly sure now they would point out our gdp and our defence budget and suggest we...
  3. Ah, it's that time again, where the leaks and...

    Ah, it's that time again, where the leaks and counter leaks start...Given the reports that the Army is going to face more cuts (from manpower to stopping the Warrior upgrade) it's not surprising.
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    I love the bit that responding to Press questions...

    I love the bit that responding to Press questions has taken up so much time for members of the DOD...
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    Sticky: Just looking at some more bits on the Chilean...

    Just looking at some more bits on the Chilean order of the Vard design, if that was the end candidate (or an Irish variant of it), I wonder would it make sense to order it from the Chilean yard? I...
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    Sticky: Wonder what the price tag is for it, could give...

    Wonder what the price tag is for it, could give us an idea in terms of what we've "budgeted" for.
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    Sure but as I said, I wouldn't be hugely...

    Sure but as I said, I wouldn't be hugely surprised if someones desk is already being made ready to drop it in if it suggests anything like increasing spending.
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    Even if the Commission had managed to report out...

    Even if the Commission had managed to report out by then I presume as standard the Government is likely to sit on it for some time afterwards anyway.
  9. The last time this flared up, London pretty much...

    The last time this flared up, London pretty much made it clear that they didn't want part of it, and that it was a Scottish decision to make an issue with Irish hulls, wouldn't surprise me if it's...
  10. Guess its just the same as the last time they...

    Guess its just the same as the last time they tried this stunt, guessing it's optics for the next Scottish election given the fishing areas went Tory in the GE, wonder if we have a hull to send up...
  11. Interesting play after Nicola trying to make...

    Interesting play after Nicola trying to make nice...
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    Here you go:

    Here you go:
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    Sticky: Poll: Well the government has been making noises about...

    Well the government has been making noises about making changes to the reserves but yeah it would be a huge change, though if based in Dublin could some reserves be used to augment the crews given...
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    Sticky: Poll: Nah, they will say we only need 1 as we don't...

    Nah, they will say we only need 1 as we don't have the crew for two...
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    Sticky: Poll: It may also be the Government holding off on...

    It may also be the Government holding off on pulling the trigger until they could be certain about what level of disruption there was going to be between the Fishing fleets.
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    Sticky: Poll: Speaking of which I wonder if the Philippines...

    Speaking of which I wonder if the Philippines might be interested in them?
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    Sticky: Poll: For that price, its kind of hard to turn them...

    For that price, its kind of hard to turn them down given how much lifespan they still have...
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    Sticky: Poll: Suppose it depends on how many ships move fishing...

    Suppose it depends on how many ships move fishing grounds and what the general mood between fishing communities is. As for Europe funding them, I supose we might try using the Brexit fund for them,...
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    Sticky: Poll: True enough, wonder who we might look at, I mean...

    True enough, wonder who we might look at, I mean there's 2 New Zealand IPVs but their crewing numbers are higher than whats suggested in the article? Another thought is how will the crews be managed...
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    Sticky: Poll: Not neccessairly, I mean they''ve sold on new...

    Not neccessairly, I mean they''ve sold on new build FREMMS to Egypt and current/new Rafales to Greece in only the last few years, if they thought there might be future salels they might.
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    Sticky: Poll: Lursen has a couple of Patrol ships still on the...

    Lursen has a couple of Patrol ships still on the books from the cancelled Saudi order and have recently sold others to Egypt?
    https://luerssen-defence.com/english-luerssen-opb-40/
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    Sticky: Poll: A lot smaller than what the article suggests and...

    A lot smaller than what the article suggests and I don't see how they could really do inspections. Given what the French have been doing could it be the Flamant class? They are scheduled for...
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    Sticky: Poll: It just occurs to me, if we do buy these two and...

    It just occurs to me, if we do buy these two and the MRV is still going to happen are we now seeing the Navy going up to 10 hulls and if so surely there will have to be an increase in personnel above...
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    True, but that won’t stop the usual BS...

    True, but that won’t stop the usual BS...
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    To be fair that's not exactly what the RN has...

    To be fair that's not exactly what the RN has done.
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