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  • #91
    Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
    Tupperware navy.

    Hull material non-metal?

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Orion View Post
      Hull material non-metal?
      On the Hunts yes. First class of minesweeper to use fibreglass hulls, which was first tried out on a TON type.

      I see Johan de Witt is not due for Commissioning until Later this month. We could make them an offer.....
      Its definitely a sales pitch. They are not on any "tour" of european ports. They both return to Den Helder for the 22nd, and were in Plymouth on the 7th and 5th, and Devonport on the 6th. Prior to that,Rotterdam was back in Den Helder.


      Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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      • #93
        You never know...

        An EPV based on the smaller ENFORCER design and a couple of OPVs based on the SIGMA corvettes? The Dutch are aware of the kind of money the Naval Service have to spend, so maybe they're going to offer a package deal....

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        • #94
          Double Dutch..

          Some pictures taken in Dublin Port this morning, as the Dutch sales team, sorry, Dutch Navy landing ships arrived:

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          Johan de Witt was first to arrive, heading upriver with the tide. As I was watching from the Bull Wall, a rather red-faced elderly gent came along and asked "Is that a battleship? It'll be just like Shannon Airport, with all those American aircraft. We'll be a target now, you know. They don't realise Ireland is neutral!" Then he stalked off with his dog, probably composing his letter to the Irish Times.

          Rotterdam came about an hour later, towed in by a couple of tugs, as she had to be reversed into her berth. One of the most notable aspects of the ships is the high slab-sided superstructures. It was just as well there was little or no wind in the port at the time, otherwise there might have been some fun. Both ships have a pair of CIWS for close air defence - one forward and one on top of superstructure aft - but they looked like big helpless targets for a submarine....

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          • #95
            Originally posted by carrington View Post
            Both ships have a pair of CIWS for close air defence - one forward and one on top of superstructure aft - but they looked like big helpless targets for a submarine....
            Good thing the submarine thread was closed then.

            Good thing too that the Navy of the Netherlands operate ships like this, which are engaged in a thing called "anti submarine warfare".


            Major auxiliaries like Rotterdam, never work alone where there is a submarine threat.


            Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
              Both of them?

              Is there enough room?
              plenty of room goldie - took a visit to the ships last night - still quite a lot of berths available - some ship -the flight deck is hugh

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
                Its definitely a sales pitch..
                Question 3
                Are proposals for vessels which do not conform to the vessel dimensions set out in Appendix A and/or B of the RFP acceptable.

                Answer 3
                No. Vessels must be within the range of dimensions set out in the “Statement of Requirements” set out in Appendix A and/or B of the RFP.

                Rotterdam Class
                Length: 166.20 m
                Beam: 25.00 m
                Draft: 5.80 m

                EPV Specifications
                Length 130 – 140M
                Beam 16-20 m
                Draft 4.0- 5.0 m

                This tender better not go the way of the S90's......

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                • #98
                  Who said they were trying to sell us that class?


                  Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                  • #99
                    No-one, I just find bringing in two vessels of a separate class to the one specified in the tender, in order to sell one which would, a slightly unusual sales strategy to be honest.

                    If it's just a display of the prowess of Schelde/Dutch ship building in general, would one not have sufficed?

                    When I saw the dimensions I had visions of the other contenders crying foul if it had been selected, culminating in a cancellation and no EPV.

                    Anyway, leaving my slight paranoia to the side, it'll be interesting to see how this pans out.

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                    • its not really the ships design or spec's thats on show, the shipyard were they were built
                      sponsered the trip, the 'yard' are doing a sales pitch for the new contacts

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                      • Exactly techman. The arrival of two of the yards recent builds, combined with the fact the Irish DF already operated with Rotterdam, is merely a suitable location for any sales pitch, with a chance to view the build quality at the same time.


                        Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                        • The ability for the builder to provide is what is being paraded not the actual ships.
                          Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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                          • There was a Danish ship in Dublin Port a few weks ago, are they trying to sell to the Navy too? It looked like an under-armed frigate or an overgrown patrol vessel.

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                            • One of these?



                              or these?



                              Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                              • It was F357.It was moored on the North Wall Extension, looked a bit worn,

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