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  • R203 retired today with 10,000 hours

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    • It'll go another 10, 000. Corrosion is what usually kills them.

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      • Hve the PC-12s been delivered yet?

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        • Originally posted by DeV View Post
          R203 retired today with 10,000 hours

          How can an airframe that old only have that many hours? Surely 203 & all the rest were the workhorses. It's the same age as myself, around since 1972. We are told that these were doing Target towing, CIT overwatch, parachute training, seal counting, along with a bit of gentle formation flying back in the day. There was a time when a team of 4 were regular attendees at airshows around the country. In 2002, the Cessna spent 39 hours alone, just doing inshore fisheries patrol. These are the aircraft newly qualified pilots used to get their flying hours up.
          For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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          • Well they haven’t had as many hours the last 10 years or so since the end of CIT which is what the bulk of their hours always was.

            Also remember a year ago there was 5 aircraft in service, originally 8 were purchased (and I think followed by at least 1 more as replacement). 4 of those 9 were written off in accidents (Lt Raymond Heery RIP)
            Last edited by DeV; 26 September 2019, 13:59.

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            • Averaging just over 4 hours per week since 1972. And that's cause for a photo op that mentions the word astonishing?

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              • World's best kept Cessna 172s, treated like babies. If they actually flog them to the public, like they should, someone will get a bargain.

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                • Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
                  World's best kept Cessna 172s, treated like babies. If they actually flog them to the public, like they should, someone will get a bargain.
                  What will happen to them?
                  'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
                  'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
                  Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
                  He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
                  http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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                  • Originally posted by Flamingo View Post
                    What will happen to them?
                    You’d assume like most either donated to say DIT or Carlow IT and/or sold as seen

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                    • there are companies in the US that specialise in refitting older model 172s like these with EFIS screens, new spars, corrosion proofing and other updates and they find a ready market.

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                      • Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
                        there are companies in the US that specialise in refitting older model 172s like these with EFIS screens, new spars, corrosion proofing and other updates and they find a ready market.
                        And then opposition TDs will ask why these relatively cheap old used aircraft were sold for very little by DoD and were subsequently sold at a higher price (omitting of course the expensive upgrades paid for by someone else)

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                        • Originally posted by DeV View Post
                          And then opposition TDs will ask why these relatively cheap old used aircraft were sold for very little by DoD and were subsequently sold at a higher price (omitting of course the expensive upgrades paid for by someone else)
                          Well that's a given isn't it.

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                          • Clearly these people have never had to sell their old car to buy an other, only to see their old car on sale later on, for far more than they had sold it for, after the salesman fixed all that was wrong with it and gave it a proper clean...
                            For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                            • Originally posted by DeV View Post
                              And then opposition TDs will ask why these relatively cheap old used aircraft were sold for very little by DoD and were subsequently sold at a higher price (omitting of course the expensive upgrades paid for by someone else)
                              Just tell them the planes have been fitted with guns and bombs...
                              'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
                              'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
                              Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
                              He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
                              http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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                              • In fairness the Cessnas are very worn out, I'd be surprised if there is any point in spending any money on them from a commercial view, I have heard one whacky rumour about them all the same which I have given a credibility rating of 1 outta 10 [there is no zero outta 10] which is: the Garda wish to take them over to replace the Defender.
                                "We will hold out until our last bullet is spent. Could do with some whiskey"
                                Radio transmission, siege of Jadotville DR Congo. September 1961.
                                Illegitimi non carborundum

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