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    more trucks..

    Seen some more new trucks for the army today in the Iveco forecourt, 2 or 3 I think, looked like troop type transports. This part of a larger order anyone know?

    Good to see more new equipment coming on stream anyway.

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    According to that eccelent book by Karl Martin, 20 IVECO Ford M140.18WM.RHD 4x4 TCV lorries were to be delivered before Christmas.

    Powered By a Euro 3(ask a truckdriver) IVECO Tector six Cylinder 5.88litre in line turbocharged aftercooled Diesel Developing 180Bhp/134Kw@ 2700rpm(pretty torquey this one).
    Max speed 90km/hr
    Permanent 4x4 drive
    Six speed manual Gearbox and transfer box with .......blah blah etc...
    Its green btw..
    So 20 it is.


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    Thanks to Gunner Al,here is the New iveco 4x4 in use by the Irish army,seen in McKee barracks.
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    so whats the difference between these bad boys and the merc's ?? How would you rate these trucks ? The DF should sort out the seating in the back of truck for soldiers. The dutch have a harness type seat (as far as im aware) they could even put in a some kind of cushion to make the journey a little more comfortable. There is also the saftey issue of travelling on a truck with no seatbelt

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    In the true spirit of procurement in the DF - they're shite!!IVECO - a poor mans truck by all means & these babies are true to form.I can safely say you'd need a safety harness getting up into or down from these boys!!A bit like a MAN diesel.If they wanted a perfectly good military type?Tcv they should have stuck with the DAF's or went back to the "Billy Bedfords"
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    The DAFs / Laylands 4x4 are no good, did you ever hear a driver trying to find gear! The merc 4x4 were much better, far better truck and full military spec, the laylands bodies were even very poor.
    Why why did we not get more merc's.
    Haven't been in a iveco so I will not comment, but it would be hard to beat the merc

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    I heard the Mercs are hated
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    The DAF's are a good truck,the Merc's being a heap of crap are justifiably hated!!Trust me baby i know!!:D

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    Don't drive army trucks my self, but any driver i spoken with prefers the mercs? and I have often seen drivers grinding the leylands gears and finding it hard to get into gear, they allso don't like theh way the back is wider than the cab?
    Is there any body on the board who has droven these trucks?

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    Yes & the DAF's are i think not a bad truck!!

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    You would need an oxygen mask climbing into the back of one of the new trucks, one of the funniest things i have seen is a lot of the "vertically challenged" individuals of the fairer sex trying to get a "leg up" to get into the bloody thing! Don't you just love the military!:D

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    They are the Same Trucks (i.e. Cabin and Engine ) as the D.R.O.P.S. Vehicles Probably have some contract going with Iveco for cheap Trucks!!

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    Er..I dont think so...Yes the drops (and the recovery vehicle) is an iveco,but that is where the similarity ends. The DROPS is an 8x8, 20 tonnerand is specifically a military vehicle while those above are clearly 4x4 and 11 tonne. and is available in 4x2 form commercially
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    Any driver I have spoken to has said that they would prefer the Merc to any truck that they have driven before. Ive been riding shotgun many a time in military transports and from my experience I prefer the Merc any day.
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    Personal preference so is the call of the day,but i prefer the DAF's.Why should we not buy our kit from our nearest neighbour anyway,it has more than battleproven itself:D
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    Originally posted by Erwin
    The DAF's are a good truck,the Merc's being a heap of crap are justifiably hated!!Trust me baby i know!!:D

    The DAF's are not a bad truck, well, not that bad, but no way are they a good truck. The old man deisels were the dog's bo**ox, a brilliant truck.The mercs are a great troop transport truck but are a load of shite off road. The new Iveco's aren't too bad off road. Even though they look quite top-heavy they are very stable and are great to drive. We were testing them this week to see if they are suitable as an artillery gun tow but it was decided that they are too high to jump from with the tail board up and for now wont be used for artillery deployment.

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    No use in having a TCV if its no good off road!!Can't see a lot of favourable attitudes towards the Iveco either,there's no way i'd jump off the back of it either without busting me balls!!As it is the DAF's are too high to jump from as an Arty prime mover but they are still used anyway,but there you are:D
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    I've been jumping off the dafs in arty deployments for years, never had a problem. If they were buying trucks just for arty, then there are far better trucks out there. The acmats were bought for just that purpose are were the best off-road vechical the army has. I have no idea why they stopped using them for arty (they have padded seats too :D)

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    The Acmats aren't an Arty vehicle - they were bought for that purpose but aren't for that.Having said that the Acmats are indeed a fantastic truck for off-road use,but the fact is they aren't utilised enough & as such have gone to shite.Most of them should be in the breakers yard now!I have seen lads who have busted ankles & the like jumping over the tailboard on gun deployments too - not nice or advisable either!!
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    I drove the DAF off road during the rececnt PSO and its good cross country.Nice roomy cab.The gear box is no problem after a while.While I haven't driven the new version of the Merc I drove an1120f in fire tender fit out and have to admit it is probably one of the best machines both on road and off road that I have ever driven.....The bedford 4x4mr was a disaster of atruck...engine wouldn't pull the skin of a rice pudding.Should have stuck with the MAN troop carrier.what a machine...the only purely military spec truck taht the army ever bought.....a true testament to their is that there are some still in service after nearly 20 years....buy cheap ...buy often.
    Time for another break I think......

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    Originally posted by Erwin
    Acmats are indeed a fantastic truck for off-road use,but the fact is they aren't utilised enough & as such have gone to shite.
    For the last 2 weeks the Acmats in McKee are being brought for spins around the barracks and then left for hours with their engines running, dont know what they are up to, but there ya go......

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    They are obviuosly being geared up for an upcoming exercise or just to give them a run, cos they sit there for months on end rotting away!!
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    Well still, it's good to see them being used at all........ what a truck....

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    Right DAF's are shite, mercs are a wanna be truck as for IVECO, poor and utter shite, (talking of civie type trucks here). I reckon they should have gone for scania's as they are a far better built truck.
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