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  • Good article in this months An Cosantoir on the Combined Vehicle Base Workshops (CVBW) in the Curragh. Here are a few interesting quotes relevant to this thread:

    the Defence Forces fleet of approximately 2,100 vehicles
    "With the diverse nature of the DF fleet it is not possible to carry all the diagnostic equipments that may be unique to some of these vehicles" ... In cases where we cannot undertake particular work on a vehicle the job is contracted to a recognised dealer".
    "... we have to have parts for every one of the over 160 types of vehicle currently in service with the Defence Forces. Many of these vehicles also have variants and we have parts and service kits for all of these as well"
    ... these are just some of the items that make up the labyrinth of some 90,000 parts stored here.
    "... One of the biggest problems we have is not only the wide range of vehicles in the Defence Forces but the variants as well. Take the Nissan Patrol for eaxmple. We have a RD28 2.8 turbo-diesel engine. There is also a 3-litre injection engine. There are also other 2.8-litre variants of this as well. The vehicles may look the same but they have completely different engines ... parts, service kits and computer diagnostic software for all the different variants." ... new Nissan Patrol petrol GRs. These are automatic transmission, which means a completely different gearbox ...
    For example, the charging system was giving problems all over the world and when we discovered the problem here we also found how to cure it... We passed on our findings to Mowag and the problem has now been solved.
    Last edited by DeV; 2 October 2006, 20:18.

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    • Just a quick post.Heard at the weekend that when the new scania 6x6 tcv's are delivered they are all going to the eastern bde.Their "big"ivecos are then going to the southern bde.
      Guess the rdf are not the only ones who have to put up with hand me downs
      "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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      • Odd that. The Scania 6x6 were not intended to be TCVs, but hey, we'll gladly take extra lurries down south if the City Boys can't manage them.


        Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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        • They'll probably centralise the different types of TCV is the geographical areas - makes sense if they aren't going to decide on one type for the whole DF.

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          • well given that it looks like most of the southern brigade are overseas at the moment ..they are hardly needed...in the event of the southern brigade mobilisation...just issue travell warrants
            Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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            • Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
              Odd that. The Scania 6x6 were not intended to be TCVs, but hey, we'll gladly take extra lurries down south if the City Boys can't manage them.
              Doubt that the inhabitants of Aiken Bks, Monaghan Mil Post, and Gormanstown Camp would take too kindly to being blanket labelled as "city boys"
              Last edited by FMolloy; 5 November 2006, 19:41.
              "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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              • Saw one of said Vehicles over the weekend. Is there a minimum height requirment for drivers? They are quite a tall truck.


                Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                • Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
                  Saw one of said Vehicles over the weekend. Is there a minimum height requirment for drivers? They are quite a tall truck.
                  Are these new Scanias essentially the same as the DROPS truck, but with
                  troop carrying capacity in the back?
                  "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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                  • No, these are 6x6. I understand the cab is smaller too.


                    Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                    • Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
                      The Army already use the Scania 420, Its correct title is the P124 420. It is in 8x8 Configuration, fitted with a version of DROPS, which Scania like to call Hooklifts.The only difference is the R124 420 will have the R cab instead of the P cab, and will be 6x6. The advantage being the shorter truck can carry a drawbar trailer without exceeding the Max vehicle length as current 8x8 drops do.The 8x4 truck will appear similar to the 8x8 but will have a Load handling crane.
                      I saw something like this in Rathmines last week. In "office" configuration, camo was OG, black and rust with polished aluminium trim.....
                      Last edited by Victor; 13 November 2006, 14:11.
                      Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. Margaret Mead

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                      • ZF Gearbox on Leyland

                        Originally posted by Frank Aiken View Post
                        The DAFs / Laylands 4x4 are no good, did you ever hear a driver trying to find gear! The merc 4x4 were much better, far better truck and full military spec, the laylands bodies were even very poor.
                        Why why did we not get more merc's.
                        Haven't been in a iveco so I will not comment, but it would be hard to beat the merc
                        The Leyland is using ZF Gearbox. Extremely robust and very good but on the Leyland Cab, it need some getting use to. The problem is changing from 3rd into 2nd often end up in 4th and from 4th into 3rd often end up in 5th.
                        It is not the gearbox that is at fault, but the linkage between the box and the cabin is not properly tuned.
                        Somehow the Indonesian has been able to fine tune their machine and they have no problem with their Leyland. They called it the MAESA PT44

                        Last edited by Arkley; 13 March 2007, 18:06. Reason: Add Picture

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                        • Knew I had seen it somewhere in response to an old post above :


                          SI 5/2003 gives effect to maximum vehicle lengths in Ireland

                          Section 26 says :

                          This Regulation does not apply to -



                          (a) a vehicle belonging to, or used for official purposes by, the Defence Forces,


                          See:
                          "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

                          "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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                          • Originally Posted by Frank Aiken
                            "The DAFs / Laylands 4x4 are no good, did you ever hear a driver trying to find gear! The merc 4x4 were much better, far better truck and full military spec, the laylands bodies were even very poor.
                            Why why did we not get more merc's.
                            Haven't been in a iveco so I will not comment, but it would be hard to beat the merc"

                            I think you'll find it quiet the opposite the DAF vehicle is far more user friendly than the mercedes to drive plus it has a roomier cab...the Iveco has been acknowledged as a disaster almost on the proportions of the Bedford MFRs. The Mercedes has a far higher cost per unit and is not a rugged nor is it as off road capabale as the DAF.Merc is a nice gucci truck and were purchased under spurious circumstances..should have stayed with either the DAF or the Merc but mixing Iveco and now scania is a disaster.
                            Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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                            • Originally posted by Victor View Post
                              ...black and rust ...
                              Seen some Steyrs that colour too...
                              Sex - Breakfast of Champions!

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                              • Irish Technology

                                Originally posted by ias View Post
                                MN, I think you're confusing the Volvo/Timoney 8x8 HMT with a vehicle developed for the UKs DERA (Qinetic?). Timoney supplied the axels and suspension for that vehicle, it was a 6x6 by the way.

                                IAS
                                Timoney in engineering circle is equivalent to Guinness in pubs ... Irish at its best.
                                Copied by many but never bettered.
                                Awarding the contract to Timoney will do the government a lot of good, promoting Irish Defence Industry. Look at the success of the Bushmaster in Australia, thanks to Timoney, which eventually leads to the development of High Mobility Truck in Indonesia based on the Leyland. It is Indonesia but the inspiration comes from Ireland.
                                Other than an off-road speeder, the Leyland now is also a rock crawler.

                                :wink:
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