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  • #16
    Silly me for thinking that the party-hats might be doing anything other than posing or scoffing! you probably boil water off the engine for tea, do you?
    You're really showing your age ..you can get some nice tea and coffee in service stations, two coffees in an insulated mug ..ah the comforts of home.

    While deployed on exercise the cav can also send out the DR to get pizza or chinese...ration packs are for those who haven't learned the finer things in life yet!
    Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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    • #17
      I'm waiting...

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      • #18
        Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
        GttC

        PS: no tank will ever be bought for the DF unless it has a "footprint" less than that of a horse. And can be converted to a mini U-boat for some of the more wetter parts of the country Wouldn't do to scratch the precious Curragh, would it, now?

        Fixed it for ya

        Connaught Ranger

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Whippet View Post

          Sorry I made such a bad entrance guys. Apologies.

          Whippet
          Don't worry about it, I've seen worse entrances! Welcome to IMO.

          From the same website you linked to here's a little beast of a machine:

          http://www.military-today.com/tanks/sprut_sd.htm

          If it wasn't for the 125mm main armament....

          There is a video promo at the bottom of the page-watch how it jumps backwards when firing the main gun from a stand still.

          Last edited by Jetjock; 1 October 2008, 18:40.

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          • #20
            It's not all the surprising the someone looking from outside would try to come up with good deals for an under resourced military. The truth is we could come up with cash for such goodies as the CV-90 if we were that bothered.

            If we had been offered that IVK-91 20 years ago(and prepared to pay for it), it might have been a very good addition. Looked the business for it's day.



            You will never have a quiet world until you knock the patriotism out of the human race

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            • #21
              http://www.military-today.com/tanks/sprut_sd_l4.jpg
              Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. Margaret Mead

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              • #22
                Murph,
                It's good to have handy underlings available to do the mundane stuff.It's quite tedious having to scrape sheep-dung off the tyre treads.A task one should always leave to others, of course...The "erks" are excellent but tend to leave oily finger prints on one's car, though.Not to mention the Panhards.They get absolutely scruffy with crisp wrappers and breakfast roll remnants.Thank God, the driver is handily placed to catch the stuff as it falls...The ammunition racks are just the right size for Pringles tubes and cleverly placed so near at hand,too.Had to stop carrying champagne in the racks, though.All that heat from the engine caused a bottle to blow off.Damn near killed my crew, that bloody cork did, ricochetting around inside for absolute ages until it lodged in a radio. Useless bit of kit, that.Can't pick up the BBC but seems to be always tuned to some ghastly country-music station.
                The cavalry.Last refuge of the right kind of chap, I find.
                regards and toodle-pip
                GttC

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                • #23
                  The whole question is what do we need this sort of vehicle for. Stoping a british armoured assault at the Boyne?

                  If its for overseas, as with the rest of our equipment, then the only real reason for it is to engage other main battle tanks; if that the case we should look at buying MBT like the leopard 2 , not something like the Cv-90120T.

                  The Canadians for example were all set to buy the Stryker Mobile gun system, but opted instead for Leopard 2, as it was more effectiv. And despite the fact that these vehicles have been on sale for over a decade in the case of the Cv-90120, nobody else has bought them partly becuaue they offer no real advantage over MBT, and are considerable less effective. The Ikv-91 was retired because the Swedes realised that it was ineffective against MBT.

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                  • #24
                    Can't pick up the BBC but seems to be always tuned to some ghastly country-music station.
                    The cavalry
                    BBC using the coms in Pahards in days of yore you werwe lucky to be able to pick up the guy sitting next to you.

                    Had to stop carrying champagne in the racks
                    ,



                    tip from a cavarly man..fill the bins on the hull with ice.. keeps the champers nice and cool and you can take the picnic bastket from the turret bustle basket of box.. depending on whether its a twent or a ninety , unfurl the Awning and invite the rest of the truop around for lunch

                    The ammunition racks are just the right size for Pringles tubes
                    or the spare breakfast role should the next availble service station be closed.

                    The placing of the trenching plates on the front make for anady place to store ones golf clubs in case a break in the exercise allows one to get nine holes in.
                    Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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                    • #25
                      On a slightly more serious note is there a brew box in an aml?
                      The spartans we use occasionally have one on the door, positioned perfectly to spill boiling water all over the back seaters when you hit a bump. Its a bit like locking yourself in a metal locker, getting your mates to roll it along the ground while simultaneously pouring boiling water into it!
                      Faugh A Ballagh

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                      • #26
                        Well if you were going to face off against another MBT it would probably be better to match it with another MBT. If the DF was to obtain Leopard 2's, wouldn't those be a tad expensive? I'm currently unaware of the spending limits of the DF, but I never thought that it had that much to give for a MBT. If it does have sufficient $, then why haven't they done something about it already? :confused:
                        Solution for an idiot: frontline infantry.

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                        • #27
                          No there isn't a 'brew box' on an AML.

                          There is something that equates to the 'brew box' on the Mowag APC however.

                          When you think of AMLs ..think of 1960s...Did your fathers Austin Cambridge or Ford Anglia have electric windows.

                          Its not intended as sarcastic , just a subtle reminder of the age they come from.

                          While optics, sites and engines, comms have been updated everything else is like a time capsule.
                          Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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                          • #28
                            Here's a thought -

                            The Mowag comes in an variant that mounts a 90 mm. It wouldn't be the MBT we were discussing, but it would be so similar to the Piranha's already delivered to the DF that it would be easier and hopefully cheaper to obatain spare parts, ammunition, etc. The Swiss are using them in an anti-tank role. Ditto for the DF?
                            Solution for an idiot: frontline infantry.

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                            • #29
                              There is an AML60 parked outside the Museom that holds the Carriage where the 1918 armistice was signed. It is not made clear if the AML 60 was involved in WW1 or not.....


                              Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Whippet View Post
                                Here's a thought -

                                The Mowag comes in an variant that mounts a 90 mm. It wouldn't be the MBT we were discussing, but it would be so similar to the Piranha's already delivered to the DF that it would be easier and hopefully cheaper to obatain spare parts, ammunition, etc. The Swiss are using them in an anti-tank role. Ditto for the DF?
                                Isn't anyone going to tell him to use the you know what?
                                You will never have a quiet world until you knock the patriotism out of the human race

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