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    What do you think of Irish people joining the BA?

    Im just curious to know what you all think of the ever increasing trend of irish and reserves going up north to join the royal irish. I have some friends who are going and who have already gone and i wish them the best.

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    I cant speak for everyone but

    If someone wants to join a foreign Army then thats their right

    God bless them and make Ireland proud

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    New years resolution, it wont last I tell ya!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagger63 View Post
    Im just curious to know what you all think of the ever increasing trend of irish and reserves going up north to join the royal irish.......
    I don't think your President would approve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishDigger View Post
    I don't think your President would approve.

    ??

    The President was referring to WW1, 1914 - 1918.

    That was 90 odd years ago.

    The question asked by Bagger63 refers to the present where we all live.

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    Many a great Irishman has served in the BA and many more Irishmen are serving right now, long may it continue.


    They deserve to be praised for having the bottle to join the military regardless of the flag they serve under, so fair play to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshua View Post
    ??

    The President was referring to WW1, 1914 - 1918.

    That was 90 odd years ago.

    The question asked by Bagger63 refers to the present where we all live.
    Interesting point though, some are suggesting An tUchtarain is attempting to "massage" history somewhat, suggesting that the only reason irishmen joined the British forces was because of poverty, rather than that of a fine tradition.

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    If you look back through history, an Irishman is as much an integral part of the British Armed Forces as a Gurkha is!
    Last edited by pmtts; 8th January 2009 at 18:11.

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    In 1914, the vast majority of the Irish Volunteers followed John Redmond's call formed the National Volunteers and joined the British Army.

    But the tradition probably goes back to the foundation of the British Army!

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    Quote Originally Posted by colonel decker View Post
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    It's a professional career
    Though it could be arranged
    With just a word in Mr. Churchill's ear
    If you're out of luck you're out of work
    We could send you to johannesburg.

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    I wouldn't do it myself, but fair play to anyone who joins the BA. Personally I'd prefer to be wearing an Irish flag on my uniform

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    ok .........firstly as allready mentioned this has been happening for years and years ! from the time of .............Cromwell ...through the 17 and 1800s when over 45% of the British Army were Irishmen , even through the 70s and 80s when British -Irish relations were at an all time low Guys from all over Ireland including the falls and the Bog side joined the British Army. One point though ..................as allready mentioned somebody said join the Royal Irish . well i would just like to say that there is another Irish regiment that probably the most Irish (in culture and tradition ) of all and that is the Irish Guards !
    It is a common fact in the Army that the Royal Irish Regiment were and still are ""loyalist-Unionist " in its Regimental culture.This may seem strange to some who read this and asume that it would be anyway being in the BA . However as an Irish Regiment they were formed as a anti catholic Regiment for William III and fought at the battle of the Boyne sometime that is never forgotten .
    The Irish Guards on the other hand were formed by Queen Victoria in 1900 in honour of the bravery of Irishmen in the Boar war .........simple you may say ..............................................NO!! !! They take some of their tradition from the Irish regiment of Foot Guards formed 1662 and fought for King James at the Boyne then going into exile in France with Sarsfield ...............fighting at fontenoy and beating their old brother Regiments in the Guards ,something that is also not forgotten ! (check out Kiplings poem the Irish Guards )
    The Irish Guards are unique in many ways in the BA .they are the only Regiment to have their Colours blessed by the Catholic Bishop , they have church parade on tuesdays being given allways by a Cathloic preist which is uniquely posted to the Regiment .
    Many Rebel tunes are used by the regiment as company marches and pipers and drummers tunes . in summary if you want to join a truely Irish Regiment in the British Army you might as well join the best !

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    Quote Originally Posted by the drummie View Post
    ok .........firstly as allready mentioned this has been happening for years and years ! from the time of .............Cromwell ...through the 17 and 1800s when over 45% of the British Army were Irishmen , even through the 70s and 80s when British -Irish relations were at an all time low Guys from all over Ireland including the falls and the Bog side joined the British Army. One point though ..................as allready mentioned somebody said join the Royal Irish . well i would just like to say that there is another Irish regiment that probably the most Irish (in culture and tradition ) of all and that is the Irish Guards !
    It is a common fact in the Army that the Royal Irish Regiment were and still are ""loyalist-Unionist " in its Regimental culture.This may seem strange to some who read this and asume that it would be anyway being in the BA . However as an Irish Regiment they were formed as a anti catholic Regiment for William III and fought at the battle of the Boyne sometime that is never forgotten .
    The Irish Guards on the other hand were formed by Queen Victoria in 1900 in honour of the bravery of Irishmen in the Boar war .........simple you may say ..............................................NO!! !! They take some of their tradition from the Irish regiment of Foot Guards formed 1662 and fought for King James at the Boyne then going into exile in France with Sarsfield ...............fighting at fontenoy and beating their old brother Regiments in the Guards ,something that is also not forgotten ! (check out Kiplings poem the Irish Guards )
    The Irish Guards are unique in many ways in the BA .they are the only Regiment to have their Colours blessed by the Catholic Bishop , they have church parade on tuesdays being given allways by a Cathloic preist which is uniquely posted to the Regiment .
    Many Rebel tunes are used by the regiment as company marches and pipers and drummers tunes . in summary if you want to join a truely Irish Regiment in the British Army you might as well join the best !

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    Ya but, they have to wear those sh1tty bearskins and Do that ceremonial shite!!!! That wouldn't be fun at all!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzler View Post
    Ya but, they have to wear those sh1tty bearskins and Do that ceremonial shite!!!! That wouldn't be fun at all!!!!
    exactly why would you wanna hang around babysitting the queen and putting on a show for, why not be in the dirt with the rir in afghan .. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagger63 View Post
    exactly why would you wanna hang around babysitting the queen and putting on a show for, why not be in the dirt with the rir in afghan .. .
    The Irish Guards, went to A'stan as well didn't they??? Or was that iraq??? Can't remember but still no contest. Royal Marines is where my plan will take me, If I actually get my ass in gear and start running again!!!
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    Royal Marine Commandos?

    hardcore.. hardcore.. too much for me.


    I'd probably go for the RAF Regiment or the Irish Guards as described above, admirable history. More PC for me.

    RAF Regiment is a bitch to get into though, scot friend of mine, big bastard of a man, has a degree in international relations, speaks 3 languages and they still wouldn't take him, sandhurst wouldn't take him either full stop which is a shame, very intelligent man and damn fit. Ended up joining the MP's as enlisted.

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    As Dev alluded to above, another reason why another portion of BA recruits
    from Ireland signed up for service in the trenches was the promise of
    Home Rule, as plugged by John Redmond.

    At least this UUP member seems to have a broader handle on the
    situation...

    Ulster Unionist councillor Michael Copeland, who has a particular interest
    in military history, said he agreed with Mr Donaldson that there were a wide
    variety of reasons why Irish people joined the British army, and that it could
    not be solely ascribed to poverty
    "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Komsomol View Post
    RAF Regiment is a bitch to get into though, scot friend of mine, big bastard of a man, has a degree in international relations, speaks 3 languages and they still wouldn't take him.
    Very odd considering no formal qualifications are required. Then again if he is fluent in foreign languages and especially if he can speak and read the likes of Arabic, Farsi, Pashto then the Intelligence Corps no doubt would be interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmtts View Post
    Very odd considering no formal qualifications are required. Then again if he is fluent in foreign languages and especially if he can speak and read the likes of Arabic, Farsi, Pashto then the Intelligence Corps no doubt would be interested.
    Just what I thought. Maybe " The Firm " has designs on signing this guy up... !!!
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    Not quite middle eastern languages, malaysian as he grew up there, his parents worked in malaysia for quite some time. Other languages are french and english :P (not quite 3 technically)

    Pretty sure the reasons the RAF regiment wouldn't take him is because they had no spaces and were about to be deployed (cant see that as a valid reason though to be honest), his sponsor convinced him to go for the MP's in the end after sandhurst had a few concerns about his psycological history, he's a bit of a nutter, rough childhood in malaysia.

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    In 1914, the vast majority of the Irish Volunteers followed John Redmond's call formed the National Volunteers and joined the British Army
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    Although over 170,000 volunteers followed Redmond only 25,000 joined the army. But many non-volunteers joined aswell which were hard to keep count of.....

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    It is true a lot OF Irish joined the BA because of poverty , cannon fodder to a large extent. There was and still a tradition of some anglo/irish families, if we can use that term who still see Britain as the mother country but they tend to want to join as officers ..
    There was agood storey of Patrick Campbell, Lord soomething or other, who was born in Ireland, telling his mother in Cork that he had joined the Navy in 1940,, She asked when he was going to Plymouth. she was most upset that he actually went to Cork..
    I have a number of friends who joined the BA over the last 30 years, Of them, two joined because of poverty, one for adventure, one because he was a bit of a West Brit and another because his Dad had been in the BA aNd joined tHe same Regt. Another option join the Foreign Legion..

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    The poll options are a bit extreme! I don't approve of them but I certainly don't think they should "never come home"!
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