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    Which is why I believe the SR is a silly idea
    I'm still a member after 30+ years . I think its a great idea. A reserve must be used from time to time ; both the reserve and permanent elements of a modern army must have experience in working the day job with their counterparts, otherwise both react very badly when actual taskings are handed out. I've seen it so many times and so much pain rather than just getting on with the job. As far as I can tell nearly every other modern country uses reservists properly. The Reserve as currently constituted for the vast bulk beyond ceremonial ? What operational use
    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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    I agree but my solution is fix the existing RDF first.

    You can't recruit & retain people as is
    There are plenty of vacancies
    There are plenty of existing skills
    It's already funded
    It's already established

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    I agree but my solution is fix the existing RDF first.

    You can't recruit & retain people as is
    There are plenty of vacancies
    There are plenty of existing skills
    It's already funded
    It's already established
    I've been trying to fix it for ages. I'm willing to keep on trying new things, I am fed up to my back teeth with people moaning and doing fk-all. The existing organization is dangerously close to extinction after 4 years of essentially zero recruitment and zero employment save for a short period of ceremonial last year.
    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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    Quote Originally Posted by popeye View Post
    FFS specialist reserve, we can't get recruits in the door, at this rate the RDF will die shortly, NSR took in zero recruits in 2016, hard to believe .
    That's frightening. Did they not have a recruitment campaign? I remember seeing potential recruits complete (and pass) fitness tests in Sarsfield barracks last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post

    According to ACOS the issue (in the DF) is security clearance as opposed to Garda Clearance. Not sure if AGS, G2 or J2 do it
    Correct...Garda Clearance is not the issue...its internal DF processes that is holding up applications.
    I went into an Italian restaurant and ordered dessert and they gave me tiramisu and a blindfolded horse and I said No, I said mask a pony (mascarpone)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    So are they being recognised?
    Yes, the certs were signed my the Deputy Director of AMC, so why would they not be recognised?
    I went into an Italian restaurant and ordered dessert and they gave me tiramisu and a blindfolded horse and I said No, I said mask a pony (mascarpone)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liachta Cultaca View Post
    Yes, the certs were signed my the Deputy Director of AMC, so why would they not be recognised?
    Have they done any since the CMU / SFC ?

    The guys at my loc hadn't done the course but when I heard at an RDFRA meeting that the CMU was going to get lads trained up..... (Maybe I put 2 and 2 together).

    Bit madding considering RDF personnel were doing them over 5 years ago in Bricins
    Last edited by DeV; 9th January 2017 at 14:57.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    I've been trying to fix it for ages. I'm willing to keep on trying new things, I am fed up to my back teeth with people moaning and doing fk-all. The existing organization is dangerously close to extinction after 4 years of essentially zero recruitment and zero employment save for a short period of ceremonial last year.
    Without employment/(deployment?) of the RDF its very easy for detractors to assert the RDF represents very little VFM as there are no discrete outputs which can be measured save for cermonials which are unfair as the RDf is not a pageantry society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    The DF rates a PDF member who has done this course (which includes qualifying as an EMT) more than a HSE AP
    Thats not true. I have never heard anyone in the DF state this, please stick to the facts.

    DF personnel on completing this course, also go on to complete the Paramedic and Advanced Paramedic courses.
    I went into an Italian restaurant and ordered dessert and they gave me tiramisu and a blindfolded horse and I said No, I said mask a pony (mascarpone)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auldsod View Post
    That's frightening. Did they not have a recruitment campaign? I remember seeing potential recruits complete (and pass) fitness tests in Sarsfield barracks last year.
    Last Intake of NSR recruits was Q3/4 2015. All those that applied on the subsequent recruitment campaign are still waiting for (As far as we are being told) Garda/Security clearance approx. 15 months later.
    Obviously this has eliminated A large portion of the applicants as they have moved on with their lives.

    Fact of the matter is that the current process of intake (without getting into finger point / mud slinging) is 100% not fit for the purpose of building or even sustaining the Reserve.
    The System needs to be overhauled from scratch.

    If it works in theory and not in practice either:
    1. you have not implemented it as per the theory.
    2. The assumptions made in developing the theory are wrong.

    IMO the later is the case.
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    Punishment beatings will continue until moral improves.

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    I would note that the PDF induction process is working as it should, and most of it is the same. Before you react, note I am absolutely appalled at the brutal state of what has happened ; numbers reaching me from the outer ends of the force are shocking . NSR has gotten a real shitty end of the stick.

    A truly legitimate complaint this one ; you can argue that a lack of Cpls are gigantic issues for the Reserve ( it is ) and a lack of promotion for Jnr officers ( much less of an issue as no job change in most cases ) but we've essentially lost/losing 4 years 2013-now of people growth
    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liachta Cultaca View Post
    Thats not true. I have never heard anyone in the DF state this, please stick to the facts.

    DF personnel on completing this course, also go on to complete the Paramedic and Advanced Paramedic courses.
    Primary research (by someone else) indicates that an RDF other ranks member of the CMU isn't qualified to undertake most roles as they have haven't completed the Diploma in UCC (now UCD). I'll PM you

    Quote Originally Posted by AC182 View Post
    Last Intake of NSR recruits was Q3/4 2015. All those that applied on the subsequent recruitment campaign are still waiting for (As far as we are being told) Garda/Security clearance approx. 15 months later.
    Obviously this has eliminated A large portion of the applicants as they have moved on with their lives.

    Fact of the matter is that the current process of intake (without getting into finger point / mud slinging) is 100% not fit for the purpose of building or even sustaining the Reserve.
    The System needs to be overhauled from scratch.

    If it works in theory and not in practice either:
    1. you have not implemented it as per the theory.
    2. The assumptions made in developing the theory are wrong.

    IMO the later is the case.
    Didn't help of course that no matter which unit (Dublin, Waterford, Cork or Limerick) you have to do your medical in Haulbowline

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    I know both of you personally and Liachta would be *very* well qualified to make the statements that have been written. Just to save time lol
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    Didn't help of course that no matter which unit (Dublin, Waterford, Cork or Limerick) you have to do your medical in Haulbowline
    Worse when your blood then had to make the trip straight back up again in a little test tube (you couldn't make this stuff up )
    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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    I applied for the NSR last year and embarrassingly failed the fitness test as my fitness had deteriorated so much. I reapplied this year and am in line for the fitness tests again. I must say that I'm shocked that the lads who applied for the NSR last year didn't get in. The lads I talked to were fit and seemed very motivated. It's actually an awful shame.

    If it's going to be more of the same with the NSR this year - am I better of applying for the Army Reserve instead? I'm 30 now and really don't have 18 months to wait for Garda clearance. The last time I was in the reserves (ended by a brief PDF interlude), my clearance went through in weeks.

    Off topic, I've noticed an Army Reserve officer in my area wearing the peaked cap as worn by the PDF in local and social media lately. I always thought it was the glengarry and nothing else? Rules for dress have changed?

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    Its back to the Glengarry as of a couple of weeks ago.
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    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    Its back to the Glengarry as of a couple of weeks ago.
    I'm sure this was covered in detail elsewhere on the site but was the logic in moving from and to the Glengarry? 1916 commemoration related?

    How's the recruitment pipeline for the AR at the moment? Was there an intake for 2016?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auldsod View Post
    If it's going to be more of the same with the NSR this year - am I better of applying for the Army Reserve instead?
    where abouts in the country are you?
    It may make more sense and you could always apply for a transfer

    Off topic, I've noticed an Army Reserve officer in my area wearing the peaked cap as worn by the PDF in local and social media lately. I always thought it was the glengarry and nothing else? Rules for dress have changed?
    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    Its back to the Glengarry as of a couple of weeks ago.
    The New Series Dress Regulations Admin Instruction has never had (AFAIK) different headgear for RDF officers - I did check a few months ago but I can't remember it may have changed to differentiate.

    Peakers haven't and AFAIK have never been on L3 for RDF officers.


    Quote Originally Posted by Auldsod View Post
    How's the recruitment pipeline for the AR at the moment? Was there an intake for 2016?
    It is now back to continuous recruitment again (ie no closing date)
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    I'm in the Ennis/Limerick general area so I've got the NSR and two infantry companies to chose from. I've definitely more interest in the NSR but the AR may be more in line with the time commitments I can give (not much more than the two weeks FTT a year as well as weekends and evenings). I've a few contacts in the infantry side of things so I'm considering shopping around to see which is the best direction to go.

    I'm 100% on the peaker being worn by an RDF officer. It looked like a local 1916 commemoration or such. I'm not going to post a photo due to probable small size of the RDF officer community above Captain. Maybe the officer was trying "sex up" his uniform a bit knowing that most at the event wouldn't notice the uniform embellishment and the rest would be subordinates so wouldn't raise as an issue anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post

    It is now back to continuous recruitment again (ie no closing date)
    It was for a while but now it is closed again as far as I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auldsod View Post
    I'm in the Ennis/Limerick general area so I've got the NSR and two infantry companies to chose from. I've definitely more interest in the NSR but the AR may be more in line with the time commitments I can give (not much more than the two weeks FTT a year as well as weekends and evenings). I've a few contacts in the infantry side of things so I'm considering shopping around to see which is the best direction to go.

    I'm 100% on the peaker being worn by an RDF officer. It looked like a local 1916 commemoration or such. I'm not going to post a photo due to probable small size of the RDF officer community above Captain. Maybe the officer was trying "sex up" his uniform a bit knowing that most at the event wouldn't notice the uniform embellishment and the rest would be subordinates so wouldn't raise as an issue anyway.
    They were ordered to wear peakers I think for 1916

    Quote Originally Posted by Archimedes View Post
    It was for a while but now it is closed again as far as I know.

    Sorry your right. Just checked military.ie

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    I'm not currently in the reserve but I was and from my perspective looking in - it seems to me that the PDF is trying to administratively kill off the reserves. Death by a thousand cuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    They were ordered to wear peakers I think for 1916
    Correct, though the peaker issued was the equivalent Sgt major hat not the officer one. Afaik the officer one is purchased and made to measure for around €130.

    Plenty went and bought them to look extra Gucci, money wasted.

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    They may well get issued/authorised again for the WoI/CW centenary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auldsod View Post
    I'm not currently in the reserve but I was and from my perspective looking in - it seems to me that the PDF is trying to administratively kill off the reserves. Death by a thousand cuts.
    My own belief is not intentionally. The DF isn't aware of the impact of the decisions it makes and how difficult it will for the RDF to comply with them

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