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  • Originally posted by midnight oil View Post
    If it is the one I am thinking of it was not voluntary
    Ah, different story altogether

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    • Originally posted by F_M View Post
      I know of a cadet that left 1 week before his commissioning!
      Same here. This guy said it "changed him too much". coulda done it 2 years sooner and given someone who wanted it a place. Was the full ninja reserve NCO. When faced with it as a career, different story.
      Not like he left a fantastic job to join either.


      Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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      • It is a daunting proposition to take on what was your hobby and do it for a living and be a success , in the case of a cadet the pressure is all the greater as you now have to hit the ground running and go and command other men as opposed to get paid for your own hobby and their welfare is in your hands , again daunting if you are a 21 year old.

        Some choose not to take that leap in case they fail.

        The cadet system teaches men to lead and to be soldiers, but it dosen't teach them to be adults, these are things you can only find out by trying and if needs be failing, the cadet system dosen't prepare people for possible failure and can be too great a prospect so I could see why people could leave right up to the last minute.
        Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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        • Yes indeed. Some do and some do not . Fair fks to all for trying.
          "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

          "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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          • Would we be ina better situation if all potential cadets were vetted through at least a two year engagement in the ranks to see if they can make the grade and thus reduce the drop out level and if anything raise the bar in relation to service requirements as opposed to purely academic qualification being the criteria for cadets
            Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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            • I can remember a Naval cadet some years ago, from Galway. Looking forward to finishing her cadetship and heading to USAC, so she could be close to home. Then everything changed, and NAVAL cadets were sent to NMCI instead. She transferred to the Army.


              Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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              • Originally posted by Saab View Post
                Exactly.

                There was only 4 of you.

                I recall being at orienteering comps where the CIS would have had 4 at the registry and another 5 or six out doing other stuff. To say nothing about the Cmdt, Capt and Lts, CS and others floating about.

                There was a couple of Tpt there too, apart from competing but nothing like the fleet of days gone bye.
                God be with the days.......That may have something to do with the fact the better of the pre org CIS units are now scratching their ARSES as infantry.

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                • Originally posted by Come-quickly View Post
                  We've had guys from our old unit , now in the PDF who swore that their time in the Reserve or FCA was excellent preparation for the training parts if not the humdrum daily life.

                  On the other hand, I have encountered NCOs and even one officer (female) that in their entire reserve career had never spent a night living in hard routine (or even in a bivvy).
                  I'd say absolutely serving in the Reserve is good prep for a career of soldiering and I still consider my time with the FCA very worthwhile indeed as it got a few basics out of the way and gave me a good understanding of the military before I joined the British Army.

                  As for NCO's and even an Officer not spending a night in the field I find that unbelievable and terrible if true.

                  I am currently in Denmark with the British Army Reserve and we have brought some Recruits out here with us too - by the time we finish the exercise they will have spent 8 nights in hard routine under the stars and have already 'deployed overseas' with us and exercised with another NATO force.

                  They wouldn't even pass out as Riflemen if they didn't spend at least 12 nights out in the field and conducted day and night Live Field Firing - so how anyone could be an NCO or Officer anywhere without having done so is shambollick and whoever is promoting these people needs a good kick up the arse to realise they are doing nobody any favours.
                  RGJ

                  ...Once a Rifleman - Always a Rifleman... Celer et Audax

                  The Rifles

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                  • Problem here is Irish people are too soft and eager to run home to mammy

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                    • Originally posted by F_M View Post
                      Problem here is Irish people are too soft and eager to run home to mammy
                      Spot on. Cry out, sure it's handier.
                      I knew a simple soldier boy.....
                      Who grinned at life in empty joy,
                      Slept soundly through the lonesome dark,
                      And whistled early with the lark.

                      In winter trenches, cowed and glum,
                      With crumps and lice and lack of rum,
                      He put a bullet through his brain.
                      And no one spoke of him again.

                      You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
                      Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
                      Sneak home and pray you'll never know
                      The hell where youth and laughter go.

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                      • Just in from a night parade (first back after camps) and I'm cautiously optimistic.
                        I knew a simple soldier boy.....
                        Who grinned at life in empty joy,
                        Slept soundly through the lonesome dark,
                        And whistled early with the lark.

                        In winter trenches, cowed and glum,
                        With crumps and lice and lack of rum,
                        He put a bullet through his brain.
                        And no one spoke of him again.

                        You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
                        Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
                        Sneak home and pray you'll never know
                        The hell where youth and laughter go.

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                        • Originally posted by Buck View Post
                          Just in from a night parade (first back after camps) and I'm cautiously optimistic.
                          Well you are from the ONLY unit in the DF that has NIL / ZERO / NADA non-effective says more about the 58 Bn than it does about the 28 Bn though

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                          • Originally posted by midnight oil View Post
                            Well you are from the ONLY unit in the DF that has NIL / ZERO / NADA non-effective says more about the 58 Bn than it does about the 28 Bn though
                            Not quite sure what you mean by that...
                            I knew a simple soldier boy.....
                            Who grinned at life in empty joy,
                            Slept soundly through the lonesome dark,
                            And whistled early with the lark.

                            In winter trenches, cowed and glum,
                            With crumps and lice and lack of rum,
                            He put a bullet through his brain.
                            And no one spoke of him again.

                            You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
                            Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
                            Sneak home and pray you'll never know
                            The hell where youth and laughter go.

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                            • Originally posted by Buck View Post
                              Not quite sure what you mean by that...
                              I will PM you

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                              • Originally posted by midnight oil View Post
                                I will PM you
                                Ta
                                I knew a simple soldier boy.....
                                Who grinned at life in empty joy,
                                Slept soundly through the lonesome dark,
                                And whistled early with the lark.

                                In winter trenches, cowed and glum,
                                With crumps and lice and lack of rum,
                                He put a bullet through his brain.
                                And no one spoke of him again.

                                You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
                                Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
                                Sneak home and pray you'll never know
                                The hell where youth and laughter go.

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