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    pictures in echo and examiner of ratings having completed a management course... what is that all about,,,, do the army have the same

  • #2
    Originally posted by golden rivet View Post
    pictures in echo and examiner of ratings having completed a management course... what is that all about,,,, do the army have the same
    The NS Potential NCO course has been recognised by FETAC(or whatever they are called these days). They have trained as supervisors after all.


    Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
      The NS Potential NCO course has been recognised by FETAC(or whatever they are called these days). They have trained as supervisors after all.
      Did you ever think you would see the day when Leading Pirates would have a scroll of achievement?

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      • #4
        Its a level six award by HETAC and its great that personnel in the PDF are getting certification that reflects their academic achievement.

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        • #5
          What other courses in the PDF are completed wiht recognised external qualifications?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by boomer View Post
            What other courses in the PDF are completed wiht recognised external qualifications?
            The PDF send some members of the Medical Corps onto Paramedic Courses run by the National Ambulance Training School. These come back recognised as Paramedics and can go onto the PHECC register as Paramedics.

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            • #7
              Army get what used to be a Diploma (now degree I think) having done Std NCOs Cse (for promotion to sergeant), there are also a number of other criteria, including a overseas tour.

              Cadets get a honours degree having completed their cadetship.

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              • #8
                Are these awards retrospective, I completed all courses up to senior nco but left 10 years ago.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by navy_medic View Post
                  The PDF send some members of the Medical Corps onto Paramedic Courses run by the National Ambulance Training School. These come back recognised as Paramedics and can go onto the PHECC register as Paramedics.
                  What qualifications do the medics in the NS have in order to go to sea on one of the NS ships?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by boomer View Post
                    What qualifications do the medics in the NS have in order to go to sea on one of the NS ships?
                    Be able to process leave forms, do the bridge recorder and the PO's mess.

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                    • #11
                      The award is not retrospective.

                      As these people go on in their careers they will hopefully receive a HETAC level 7 (ordinary degree) in Naval Leadership & Management on successful completion of their Senior NCOs Cse.

                      The award takes into consideration all the courses they have done from basic training, branch training and professional courses.

                      It is great that a person who might not other wise have a trade cert or professional quailification will have something concrete to show if they seek employment in civvi street.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Toolbox View Post
                        The award is not retrospective.

                        As these people go on in their careers they will hopefully receive a HETAC level 7 (ordinary degree) in Naval Leadership & Management on successful completion of their Senior NCOs Cse.

                        The award takes into consideration all the courses they have done from basic training, branch training and professional courses.

                        It is great that a person who might not other wise have a trade cert or professional quailification will have something concrete to show if they seek employment in civvi street.
                        I think its a brilliant idea

                        it should be for all branches of the DF not just the navy

                        well done who ever came up with the idea
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                        Are full of passionate intensity.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Toolbox View Post
                          The award is not retrospective.

                          As these people go on in their careers they will hopefully receive a HETAC level 7 (ordinary degree) in Naval Leadership & Management on successful completion of their Senior NCOs Cse.

                          The award takes into consideration all the courses they have done from basic training, branch training and professional courses.

                          It is great that a person who might not other wise have a trade cert or professional quailification will have something concrete to show if they seek employment in civvi street.
                          I agree with hedgehog - its a great idea - puts the sailor at the centre of the system - the navy really has voyaged to an understanding!

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                          • #14
                            By the nature of the job recognition of management skills both at commisioned and non comissioned should be mandatory.

                            While the life skills are often appreciated they are very rarely noted and certified, this has to a be a huge step forward in recognising that people even at junior management levels, after all NCOS are team leaders and management within departments.

                            Given that HETAC is a recognised level of achievement the promotion of this culture of recognition and education is to applauded.

                            While the professional aspect of the job has been recognised for years with skills training been a precursor to entry to managemnt level the people skills were often neglected.

                            This is a great step forward in recognising these skills and a great effort to channel peole through recognised man mangement skills.

                            Well done to all involved, nice to see the NS taking a very positive step towards qualifying its people to manage the most valuable resource the service has..its people.
                            Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by hedgehog View Post
                              I think its a brilliant idea

                              it should be for all branches of the DF not just the navy

                              well done who ever came up with the idea
                              its time for you to put pen to paper hedge to your senior officers... as in civie street they will know by you that the serviceman is able to adjust to ANY job he is given but this is a great idea when you submit a cv to a company..

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